Hi. Can you hear me? Yeah. So I say sue, you say Nami. Nami. That's right. I say sue, you say Nami. That's right. Knock-knock. Knock knock. Fascism, go away. That's right.
That's right, Jess. I am not going to read ridiculously little dick energy tweets from the president like your other co-host. I'm just going to revel in the fact that America showed up today. America showed up and had brothers kill brothers when 1% of the population decided that owning slaves was the key to economic growth, and we came back stronger. America showed up after we interned Japanese for no other crime than being Japanese and kicked off a huge wave, I believe, of civil rights. And today, I think, is of that magnitude. Today, who showed up? Answer: America. I'll ask you. I really don't know how to process this. How are you processing this? Like, what did Jess Harlo do this morning?
I did Fox and Friends, where I got to do some of my processing on air and talk about, you know, the key themes that I think drove this election: costs, corruption, cruelty, and data centers and AI, which is under-discussed. And I know that we're going to get into that. Um, but it was unbelievable being here last night watching this unfold. And from the moment that the Indiana votes started coming in, you knew it was going to be a good night. And then I, you know, me and my obsession about Kentucky 6th as stuff kept coming in for that for Zack Debo, which didn't get called until later in the night, but it was always there that I was focused on that. Um, and then South Carolina, I think that's when everybody just said, 'Holy [__], let's pack our toys and go.' Um, Annie Andrews is going to pull off the impossible. And I saw Semaphore just had a piece that went up that the Andrews camp knew that this was going to happen last month and they had internal polling showing her ahead, but they didn't release it to the public because they didn't want to draw attention from the national Republicans. Uh, which is such a smart move. So they got there late to this idea that Darlene Graham was in a crisis situation. Um, but I, you know, when I think about what the results last night mean and what it's going to mean going forward, it feels like this incredible era of possibility is upon us. And we talk a lot about, you know, the old folks who won't get out of the way. And you saw this new generation of unbelievable political talent just beating down the door. And they knocked down that door in red and purple states. I mean, these margins in Texas and Kansas, it's like mindblowing. Um, what was it like because you had your show last night in Toronto?
In Canada. Yeah. So it was very exciting. But I'm going to back up a second just because I let my emotions get the better of me. Tsunami. Sue. Tsunami. You say Sue tsunami. The blue tsunami we've been predicting is here. Democrats swept across the country, taking control of both the House and Senate, flipping seats in South Carolina, North Carolina, Maine, Kansas, and Texas, and turning longtime Republican strongholds blue, incandescent blue. Some are calling it the Democrats' best election night since 2008. I would disagree. I think it's the best. The data shows we haven't seen a pivot like this since the time in between Nixon being suspected of masterminding a break into the DNC headquarters and his resignation. This is a 50-year earthquake. As Trump repeatedly asked voters, he got what he wanted. People acted like he was on the ballot. This was, and we'll come back to this, this wasn't 'we love the new patient.' This was organ rejection. This is a devastating repudiation of his second-term agenda and a message Republicans can't ignore. Trump says he's absolutely willing to accept those results, quite frankly, because this was too big to rig, and even claims he's prepared to work with Democrats. Okay, thanks for that. Uh, let's get a taste of how America was living out last night after the results.
Today begins the great American comeback. We just took back Texas. Iowa, we have done it. I think we just made some history because tonight we here in South Carolina sent a clear message that this Senate seat does not belong to one family, one party, or to Washington, D.C. This win is for every Ohioan who has longed for public servants again who do not mistake kindness for weakness. I think I got elected after getting in the race just six months ago. I think I got elected because Kansans were saying we're tired of the bullies, we're tired of the chaos, we're tired. And so to all the kids who watched this last month, to all the parents who struggled to explain why the president openly mocked someone for their name or how they pray, let them know tomorrow that the bad guys lost. Let them know that we together fighting for something bigger. We won. Yo, Donald Trump and the billionaires need to understand one thing very clear. Something about your new senator: I don't owe them a damn thing.
And I think the Democrats did a good job. I really do. I think they did a good job. So, in terms of surprises, and I want to come back to what you found. I mean, all right, Kansas, first time in a hundred years they've sent a senator. The thing that I found, or two things struck me. Well, a bunch of things, but the two I'll reference, and then I want to hear what struck you, is that one, South Carolina: what the data shows is that if they had just put up someone and put an R next to their name that no one had ever heard of and did not have Trump endorse this person or get near this person, that that person would have handily beat the Democrat. That it was Trump's association with Darlene and her de facto association with Trump vis-à-vis being Graham's sibling that basically sunk her. That if they had just said Bob Smith, you've never heard of him, but he's a Republican, and Trump got nowhere near it. I mean, this is such a clear... I mean, we call it a blue tsunami. It was a tsunami riptide, and we'll come back to that. The other thing that I want to point out is that, and this has been a big thing: young men are a theme of mine. Young men are the swingiest swingers in voting. And that is, they vote mostly on economic issues. And economic issues, you know, on crime and immigration, Republicans are steadfastly seen as the better or the more serious party. On things like sometimes around what I'll call empathy, better tax policy, whatever you want to call it, the Democrats pull stronger.
Young men go with the economy, and the economy flips back and forth. Sometimes people think that Republicans are better for the economy. Sometimes they think Democrats are better for the economy. And I'll come back to that because I have data on that. But if you look at what happened, if you look at who pivoted the hardest in this election, it is just striking what happened. And that is, if you look at white women, they swung 11 points towards Dems this election. White non-college swung 14 points. Those are literally tsunamis themselves. Black men swung 16 points back towards Democrats versus 24. Hispanic people, 28 points. Young people, 32-point swing. And then the biggest swing of any group, and arguably the biggest swing we have seen in any cohort in recent history in an election, is males aged 18 to 29 swung 38 points. So for those of you who have this lazy thinking that young men are just Neanderthals, not worth saving, who drag their knuckles along the ground, they are paying attention. They're focused on economics so they can form households. They're less socially minded, or less concerned, I should say, over geopolitics or social issues. They want to know who's going to give them the prosperity that their parents had. 38-point swing. What shocked you, Jess?
Everything. Everything. Everything. There's that. I mean, first of all, I hope they had all seen your social clips about how they were going to have more money in their pockets if they go with Democrats. And if that was the only reason, that'd be good enough for me. But we also know that they are socially liberal and didn't necessarily want to be part of a cohort that was talking about, you know, pulling back reproductive rights.
Majority support bodily autonomy. FYI, majority of youngsters, bodily autonomy. Sorry, please keep going.
Oh, no, no, no. I was just saying that always sticks with me, that they get lumped in with older Republicans or, frankly, the ones who are just in office that are talking about this stuff. When you talk to like normal people on the ground, like you know, about trans bathroom bills and stuff like that, they say, 'Just go ahead and pee. I just don't really want to talk about it.' I don't care what you're doing in there. Um, the rural vote was one of the most interesting facets of this race, that was a particularly big deal in South Carolina, and once those numbers started trickling in, folks knew that it was going to be a very bad night. Those are core Donald Trump voters, and JD Vance has posted this long, long tweet about what happened and saying, you know, it was the war in Iran, and even the president says this. He did some Israel blaming. It's very interesting to see, you know, those voices kind of converging. Um, but he talked about traditional Republican voters leaving the cohort and what a shot across the bow this is for Republicans. And by no means does last night's results indicate to me that this coalition is now enduring on the Democratic side. I mean, there are, you know, people who definitely showed up to vote yesterday who may have no interest whatsoever in the Democratic ticket come 2028 if there are normal people on the Republican side of it. But the collapse of the rural vote was a huge storyline. That every gerrymander ended up being a dummy-mander. Those Florida numbers as they came in for Kathy Castor, for Jared Moskowitz, looking at North Carolina, didn't pick up one seat out of that. Like they cheated so badly. How embarrassing to be that low and that corrupt and not even be able to pull it off. Um, another plot line, you're a Florida voter. The, I would say, the one mistake that Democrats made: we did not invest in Angie Nixon and David Jolly.
They could have won those races.
No. And everyone, I was on the panel in the 8:00 hour, and everyone is talking about the Florida results and saying like, 'Oh, I'm sorry,' and saying, 'Oh, you Angie, Angie Nixon, socialist, blah, blah, blah,' pulling down the ticket. Angie Nixon's organizing power, that's her background as a union organizer. She lifted everybody up on that ticket from top to bottom, David Jolly down to, you know, state legislative races, huge. Here we got new state legislature trifectas in seven states and chamber flips in five. Nine of the 10 most heavily populated states in America now will have Democratic governors, under-discussed. Um, on the Amy Acton front, and I'm glad that we chose that particular part of her speech, because she was talking about feelings, and Annie Andrews talks about it as well. You know, women, I think generally speaking, we'd say better at talking about feelings. But there was so much emotion driving this election and such an aversion to the coarseness and the cruelty that the Republicans have been leading with, certainly in Trump 2.0, but I would argue since he came down that golden escalator and led with their bad hombres and 'we're going to do a Muslim ban.' And I'm so happy to see not only a groundswell of support for candidates that talk about humanity and emotion, I put Reverend Hamilton, James Talarico, all of them in this bucket, but to see these enormous wins for these women was really exciting to me. And to think of the pain that Amy Acton has gone through throughout the course of her whole life, considering what her stepfather did to her, and then Vivek Ramaswamy making that ad with her mother, then doubling down on it, Trump, JD Vance, all of them falling in line with this. Um, that was a huge heartwarming facet of this election to me, where I thought, there they've been yelling at me about how no alpha male would ever back these whiny betas and 'you're a bunch of gay vegans' or whatever, and real men show up and support people with good policies and who care about one another and who believe in the Constitution and the American dream and the promise of a better future. And that's what last night symbolized to me. You know, people across the spectrum coming together to say we can believe in a better tomorrow. And I don't know exactly what that looks like. We'll get into the nitty-gritty of like what does the agenda look like, etc. Um, but it was an enormously hopeful night for me.
Yeah. So just some additional data here. Um, with two races unresolved, we have 54 Senate seats have gone to Democrats. Uh, the House, we're up 28 with 64 unresolved. That's 35 flips against about 29 in 2008. So easily the best night since '08. And if this holds up, it might be the best since '74. You're right, it's the Watergate era that it's the best thing. '74, and so the Senate swing is the outlier, since plus seven is the biggest in a decade. Kansas, South Carolina, and Texas aren't safe anymore. Um, so taking the metaphor even further, a tsunami is the ripple of an earthquake or the second-order effect of an earthquake out at sea. I think the earthquake that created a super tsunami here, quite frankly, and this is a lesson for Democrats, that it's better to be lucky than good, and recognize that we have these folks on a lease. We don't own them yet. But the earthquake out in the middle of the ocean, I think, was $6 diesel a gallon. My background is in branding. It's just when you have hundreds of thousands of gigantic dynamic billboards every three blocks called the gas station, the diesel price, and every day people go by it, and it's again under the notion of luck. The swing states happen to be the states where people drive more. You had more, the swing voters are men, drive 30% more. The economy in terms of job growth has mostly gone to professions, healthcare, and education that tend to be more female-dominated, and females more reliably vote Democrat. So the swing voters were again that young men, plus 38. Men disproportionately populate manufacturing and transportation. And by the way, those are the two industries that have been hit hardest. So you take the billboard plus the industries that hurt or have the most impact on men, and you have just a, I mean, it's literally like every moon lined up in the world. This is one of those, you know, astrological, or excuse me, astronomical events where all these planets and moons, you know, it seems like every one year, century, there's a once-in-a-hundred-year somehow astrological event that we're supposed to go outside and stare at it. So, just some more data. Voters 18 to 29 went 65% Democratic to 31%. Latinos were 61%, black voters 90%. And this is my favorite: moderates, about 80%. And for all of your colleagues at Fox [__] posting about how [__] crazy the DSA is and everything, the vast majority of the people who won last night would logically be called moderates. Uh, white men were 55% Republican to 45% Dem. White women Republican share fell from 56 to 47. So white women actually came out, or for the first time, older white women went Democrat. Latinos plus 32. I mean, just crazy. The coalition, again, the term for Trump, but it's also the term that applies to us now, is rented, not owned. These people didn't convert. They were just waiting, in my opinion, for someone to talk about rent and gas prices. And just some firsts here, and I'll get your reaction. First black woman governor. What was shocking to me is that that hasn't happened already.
Um, B. Bottoms. Uh, Holland, first Native American female governor. Hagaosa, first Latina governor of Texas. By the way, that shocked the [__] out of me.
Yeah, I thought Abbott was going to win.
So did I. Flanagan, first Native American woman elected to the Senate. Elsa, first Muslim senator. Pappas, first openly gay man in Kansas, first Democrat elected since 1932. DeMings, just to nod to the other side in progress, DeMings became Florida's first black governor. So this is both parties produce firsts. Voters are rewarding people who look like the country and who talk about what it costs to live in that country. Um, let's talk a little bit about underperformance. Um, the unresolved Alaska race, Florida, um, the DOJ suit to block certification, Alaska, there is now alive. Um, you know, this feels like it's too big to rig even. And then data: Cal favorites won 479 of 487 races, 356 of 360 in the House. So most seats were safe. So the real test was in the toss-ups. And so it's crazy. Basically, I think I would listen to The Daily today, and one of the journalists there talked about, he had a graphic metaphor of where stuff went blue from red, and then he just had a blue circle. The whole place looked like a paintball tournament where the blue team just annihilated. I didn't see a red dot in...
No, that was like the reverse of the 2024 graphic that haunts our dreams.
Oh, is that right? Was it...
That was all red except suburban Atlanta. That was the only area in 2024 that went in the blue direction, and now it's the whole country.
Yeah. And so moving forward here, it'll be interesting to see what Democrats do with this. But so what's interesting also, and I want to get your view on this in terms of the media, is that Trump attacked, as the results were rolling in, Trump began attacking or picking a fight with one of his biggest allies in conservative media, Fox News. By the way, I just think it's really tacky for any man on air to read disparaging texts about his female co-host. At some point, at some point, I hope real men show up to your panel over at Fox. That's all I'm going to say about it. But Trump attacked Fox's polling. Think about how insane this is, and think about what a relevant voice you have become. The president, on the biggest loss for Republicans in the last 50 years, found time to text your co-hosts and criticize you. That's what was on his mind. Just think about how pathetic and weird and borderline ick that is in terms of priorities and what is occupying. I'm just, we benefit from you and Kaitlan Collins living rent-free in this guy's brain such that he can't focus on things like affordability or things that Americans actually care about. So to a certain extent, you and Kaitlan, to a certain extent, are the distraction we need to convince Americans that this guy just has absolutely the wrong priorities. Trump attacked Fox's polling and election coverage, accusing the network of giving Democrats too much airtime even as Republicans suffered major losses across the country. The president even, as I said, specifically targeted you. And this afternoon, in his first public remarks since the historic Republican losses, Trump ignored the results. And we've got some footage of both of those events. Let's take a listen.
Somebody called the president, Greg. Greg, tell Tarloff who is the worst. And worst is in capitals. Gas prices are lower than they were for Biden and Obama. And they allowed Iran to have the nuclear bomb. President DJT, you can see that D. Yeah, I got you. Just press stop. I doubt there's a ballroom in the country with 50-foot ceiling. And you'll be able to have dinners for as many people as you want. We had King Charles here and we were very restricted. He asked, he said, 'Could we have about 350 of our people?' He said, 'We don't hold 350. We hold about 98. So having 350 is a little tough.'
So there's a lot of sad stuff going on there. I will say the text had come in earlier and Greg read it not on air and was like, 'What do you think?' And I was like, 'Go for it. Like, this is to talk.' Okay.
And Trump had posted about me too. So he called me dumb as rocks and said that he couldn't stand my voice and that he had to turn it off. But then he said, 'I'll be back later,' which he definitely was because he called into the coverage later on and had gone after the poll. But it was such a perfect endorsement of my book, since one of the rules of it is if you're being criticized on style, you've won on substance. So the president fell right into my trap. Um, but you know, all in all, pathetic rating for the president. And I know he's out on this conciliatory tour where he's like, 'Oh, we want to work together.' And yeah, if you could get the president to sign off on something, all the more power to you. I'm not against that. I think you should absolutely do it. But he's going to wake up tomorrow on one and not want to do anything with Democrats and say, 'We're going to launch an investigation into, you know, someone who threw a sandwich.' So you can't trust him as far as you could throw him, which is like nowhere, because he's a very big, heavy man. And you know, I guess it's a good thing that they're as of now not doing any of these huge legal challenges to it. Too big to rig. Nancy Pelosi said it. She was like, 'This is what it's got to be if we're going to end up being okay.' Um, I think Alaska will be close. My expectation is that they will not push it that far, especially considering that it doesn't matter for control of the Senate at this point and that Dan Sullivan has said that he'll accept the results. Um, but I could be surprised, obviously, in the negative direction by Republican behavior. I thought it was very interesting that Mike Johnson said that he's not going to run for minority leader. He's like, 'I'm out.'
Yeah. Yeah. Well, there you go. I'm going to miss him almost as much as I miss Lauren Boebert. And I actually am going to miss Lauren Boebert. I was hoping she'd go out with my teenage son. As I said, I think she was the ultimate...
He's in the like, oh, I don't want to say something weird about your son and hand jobs. Anyway, moving on. Um, can I... You read a list of firsts, and I wanted to add one, um, because it looks like Scott Colom is going to win in Mississippi, and he will be the first...
How close is that race and how monumental would that be? They just got a new dump of votes, another 2,000 for him. The provisional ballots usually break blue, right?
Yeah. So it looks like he's going to be the first black senator in the South since Reconstruction. And what's so perfect about it is that three years ago, Cindy Hyde-Smith voted against making Scott Colom a federal judge. He was nominated, a blue slip, by Joe Biden. And now he's going to take her seat. And the, you know, karma, whatever you want to call it, things coming full circle. And we already talked about, I don't even know if it was the best ad of his cycle because he has that incredible closing ad playing off of Sinners where he has her as a vampire, but the ad making fun of her about 'pick another protein' when she was asked about the rising price of beef and the idea that you would tell Mississippians that maybe they should just have chicken or turkey, I think was definitely going to go down as one of the best ads of the cycle. Um, I, you know, other plot lines that I loved: one of the Navy admirals that Pete Hegseth fired flipped Nancy Mace's South Carolina seat to blue. Um, Adam Hamilton, I had actually not heard this before. I think he told Tim Miller at The Bulwark the reason that he ran was that he was tired of arguing with Roger Marshall in his head. And so he figured, I might as well go out there and actually argue with Roger Marshall, and picked it off. Um, and then one more emotional than anything, I don't know if you saw this, but if you in Minneapolis go to the memorials for Renee Good and Alex Petty, they are covered in I Voted stickers. And...
You stole my thunder. I'm in Minneapolis. I'm in Minneapolis.
Oh, you're there. Oh, it's tonight there. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm in Minneapolis and I took a run and the Alex Petty memorial is two miles from here and there are I Voted stickers. I mean, it is so moving. There are I Voted stickers all over Renee Good's memorial. And if there's anything that summarizes like what this means, I think it's that it is just so... You know, when you think about, I mean, we all have low points emotionally in terms of relationships, in terms of people we love, professional low points. I think for a lot of us, Kara and I were in Minneapolis. Um, we decided to come here about, I think it was six or eight months ago, right after the shootings of Renee and Alex. And when we had, we had a cabinet member describe the murder of Alex Petty, an ICU nurse who took care of veterans, describe him as a domestic terrorist. And I'm going to put this back to you. For me, that was my low point in America. As long as I've been cognizant of what America means and how fortunate I am, that was for me the low point. I have never felt that bad about America. That was the trough. That was the low. And to see today all those I Voted stickers at his memorial, it does feel like America, you know, that the arc of American justice is crooked and jagged, but it does bend towards justice. Can you think of a moment? And then I want to bring it back to stuff that's more positive and talk about leadership and the Democratic Party moving forward. But was there a moment for you where you thought, 'Wow, we have really hit, it feels like rock bottom?'
I would certainly put that in that, and then add to it that I was engaged in arguments with people about this who were defensive of the actions that those ICE officers took, or even saying that a past policy could be a justification for what happened to them. Um, no, I think it was horrible. And Kristi Noem decided to, like, you know, check in on the Twitterverse and write, you know, about how well it was going at the beginning. And it's like, I get it that it's easier for Trump to fire women than men. Um, but she will go down in history as one of the worst cabinet secretaries that we've ever had. And even though it might not have shown up in the polls in the same way as the costs and the corruption, the cruelty with which this administration carried out immigration enforcement and their crassness, you know, thinking about the video that Kristi Noem made at Secot when she's like dancing around in a tight white T-shirt and a Rolex in front of people, some of whom are innocent of anything, in a foreign torture prison.
and that we were supposed to cosign and be okay with that is beyond any pale that I have ever been asked for my mind to be able to embrace. And I hope that that is one of the lessons that eventually because it feels like right now Republicans are not taking that lesson because you don't get this surge specifically in Latino voters if you are not considering the way that their communities have been terrorized and how many especially with the young folks that turned out who hadn't voted before that they have seen their elders maybe parents, grandparents, you know, folks that they've known their entire lives rounded up while they're just going about their business, you know, on their way to work, dropping off at school, all of the hideous ways that Stephen Miller concocted for us to quote unquote, you know, create a deportation force. And I, you know, maybe this is the moment that we could actually get some bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform and that James Lankford should pop up again and say, you know, Senator Murphy, when you are feeling better and we continue to wish him a speedy recovery, let's get back at it because this is a clear signal that immigration enforcement cannot go the way of Stephen Miller, that the people will not stand for it and they will take to the streets.
So, just to get back to, first off, with respect to Secretary Gnome, worse than anything, I don't think anyone is going to remember her. I think she's a trivia question. I think she's when you have Thanksgiving, you always make the mistake of inviting someone who doesn't have a family and then they get drunk and act like [__] and then you don't invite them and you just forget they even live down the street. Secretary Gnome's legacy will be indifference and yeah, like a wse and a trivia question. I don't think anyone's quite frankly in 10 years going to remember who she was.
So, let's talk a little bit about leadership moving forward on the Democratic side. Hakeem Jeffries is set to make history and become the first Black speaker. In the first 100 hours, Jeffries is planning to pass legislation to undo Trump's most unpopular policies. Good for you, Speaker Jeff. Meanwhile, Chuck Schumer earlier this year predicted a Senate majority and, you know, let's be honest, has redeemed himself. I have not been a fan of Schumer and I think he deserves a lot of credit here. Khi has the odds of him returning as leader at 93%. Let's listen to what he said this morning.
Against all odds, Democrats have won the Senate and we have five words for the American people: Relief is on the way. In 2025, when I said we could win back the Senate after we had lost the presidency and the Senate, people rolled their eyes. But we never wavered.
Okay, maybe let's go back to talking about some of the new people.
But it's, I'm sure we're going to get to that and there are going to be, you know, real com...
What a great note to retire on. What a great note to say to announce that he's leaving. But anyways, go ahead. I don't mean to be a bummer. I don't mean to.
No, it's not about being a bummer. That is obviously like a realistic response to this because you also just even look at the swagger of these new candidates. Like I get it that I am programmed to be into watching Senate majority pack thirst trap videos, you know, set to music that I grew up with. Everything is very millennial coded and I'm watching like, you know, Abdul and John Oaf and James Talerico and Chris Pap. I mean, they're, it's so hilarious they've like managed to make Troy Jackson into a Yes.
Boys. My favorite, my favorite is when you see three of them and it's like what boy band would they be? My favorite was No Backstreet.
Wait, no Backstreet Abortions Boys. Anyways, that was my favorite.
Go. Well, the internet also had one of its best days, like ever.
It's on fire. I woke up this morning not being able to do anything, but I literally don't know how to process this. So, I just do what I always do. I started posting memes of Niagara Falls being illuminated blue, of the Eiffel Tower being illuminated blue. My favorite thing I saw this morning was that Susan Collins' reign of concern is over. I love that the internet wins. Well, no, the Democrats win today. America is the big winner today, but the internet is a close third.
So, Mike Johnson joked during the campaign that if Republicans lost the House, he'd head on to Louisiana and start a lawn care business. Today, he announced he won't seek to be minority leader. Khi has the odds of Jim Jordan becoming the leader for the House Republican at 95%. Polymarket's a little bit lower than that. John Thune earlier this year said that lame duck SCOTUS confirmation is possible. Yeah. Okay. Who cares?
That would be so shitty. And I don't think...
You just described the Republican Party.
What did Mitch McConnell do? No, but this is like, I would be so curious to see what Susan Collins, Tom Tillis, Bill Cassidy, like, you know, the conscientious, right? Well, if they're going to try to jam through a Supreme Court justice in the next 60 days, if those folks who are either retiring or got their butts kicked dare to vote for Eileen Cannon or some other 40-year-old lunatic that they're going to try to put on the court, like I don't know what I'll do. Sorry, the sun is like beaming, so I'm gonna be really weird and like hold my hand like this for a while.
But that kind of comes down to personal psychology. And is it, are they angry at Trump and feel like they finally get to have a backbone and not worry or are they going to stick up their middle finger on the way out to the people who kicked him out of office? I think a lot of that just comes down to human psychology. It's like just as they say power reveals oneself. I always thought the two looking glasses into a person's soul are how they treat their pets and how they behave when they're drunk. Or that's two of them at least. But...
I think that's a good one. And then, but this, someone said that power, when you get real power, that kind of reveals who you are, but also when you lose your, when you no longer have anything to lose, you know, how does it, on the other side, power reveals who you are, but a lack of power, meaning you're on your way out, look at what a baller Tom Tillis is. Look how reasonable Tom Tillis, look how reasonable and courageous Tom Tillis has become.
