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Dan Niles
Founder and Portfolio Manager, Satori Fund (Niles Investment Management)

Nvidia has 60 executives reporting to Jensen Huang and not one president | Sozzi Unleashed

📅 Nov 09, 2026 Yahoo Finance 25 MIN 1852 VIEWS 33 SEGMENTS · 3 SPEAKERS
Brian Sozzi spends the morning on the thing Nvidia has never published: who runs it next. About 60 people report directly to Huang, he famously holds no one-on-ones, and every name on the leadership page is an executive vice president. In a normal public company the president title is how a board signals a successor, and Nvidia has never used it. Sozzi's own bet is the finance chief. He also flags a story he thinks the market has not priced. Apple has cut its engineers' daily AI spending caps, and he argues that pushback on what AI tools cost inside big companies is missing from the 2027 and...

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Dan Niles, founder of Niles Investment Management, discussed the Nvidia crisis involving CEO Jensen Huang's reported affair. Niles, who has known Huang for 30 years, called it a horrible situation but maintained Huang is a generational CEO and hopes he continues leading. He argued Jensen is not critical to Nvidia's next few years due to a deep bench, citing Apple's success after Steve Jobs. Niles said the board will force a successor appointment. He dismissed concerns about Nvidia's financial backing of customers, noting the AI trade has been 'taking on water' since June, with circular financing and IPO delays at Firmus Grid and NScale. He highlighted 40% of incremental data center capacity at risk due to new governors. Niles said Nvidia trades at 12 times earnings, not over 100 like Cisco in 2000, and will survive downturns better than neoclouds, which he predicts will go to zero. He compared Jensen to Churchill, separating job performance from personal life, and is buying Nvidia stock. He expects volatility but sees agentic AI as a new phase, with another year of growth, and predicts issues for a few months after new governors take office in mid-January.

Key takeaways

  1. Niles is buying Nvidia stock despite the crisis, citing Jensen's leadership and a deep bench.
  2. Niles expects the board to force a successor appointment, but Jensen remains important.
  3. Niles sees 40% of incremental data center capacity at risk due to new governors.
  4. Niles predicts most neoclouds will go to zero due to overflow capacity.
  5. Niles believes agentic AI will drive another year of growth, despite volatility.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
12 times earnings Nvidia's price-to-earnings ratio metric 15:24
40% incremental data center capacity at risk metric 13:29
14 out of 30 semiconductor index names down over 50% from 52-week highs metric 20:55
50% sequential growth in AMD's data center business from Q3 to Q4 metric 9:43
10 million people activating Muse in 45 days metric 9:43

Chapters

  1. 0:00Nvidia crisis and trust
  2. 3:43Succession plan and leadership structure
  3. 7:06AI sell-off and pricing pushback
  4. 8:54AMD as alternative
  5. 11:50Jensen's importance and successor
  6. 13:12Circular financing and data center risk
  7. 15:24Valuation and market top
  8. 17:44Character and personal life
  9. 19:30Volatility and agentic AI

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 11:15What does accountability look like for Jensen and Nvidia in your view?
  2. 12:09How important is Jensen to the next few years of Nvidia?
  3. 13:12Does it damage the trust in Nvidia being that backstop to a lot of the AI trades?
  4. 15:13Dan, should one be a buyer on weakness while we are still awaiting any form of outcome from an investigation that just started a day ago?
  5. 17:44Or you don't even try to do it and just focus on the numbers?
  6. 19:30Is the AI trade likely to stay, you know, volatile with a downward bias as we try to digest some of these new aspects to it?
Brian Sozzi 0:04 ↗
It's going to be an interesting week, friends. I've got a lot to say on this Nvidia drama, but I wanted to start off just a little lightly, just a little bit light-hearted before I get to the serious stuff, because it's a serious day. Really serious day. First up, interesting post. Not to paraphrase Elon Musk perfectly, but really interesting speech. I encourage everyone to check this out by Sir Demis Hassabis, DeepMind CEO. Really interesting chat by him, and I don't think he's wrong. I mean, you were probably looking into — we're probably looking into a future, I should say, where a very credible, game-changing company is going to be led by and created by a single person because of AI. I think he's on to something, and I think Elon Musk gets that too as well.
Next up, one more post, and this is along the same lines. Really lengthy post by Brian Armstrong detailing how he has changed his work over the last few weeks, leaning in on agents. You know, having interacted with Brian and a lot of other CEOs, he's not alone in changing how they work. You know, I think not that he's replacing his human people that report to him, but he's really leaning in on all things AI to change how he works, really leaning in on agents. So go read that post. It was really interesting because he's not alone, and I think you're going to see a lot of changes like this within the C-suite.
Now, let's just get on to really the story. I think the story of the year — this is the story of the year — and it came out of left field. I have heard from a lot of you on the hot water Nvidia's celebrated CEO Jensen Huang is in following his admission having cheated on his wife of 40-plus years with a reported — I want to emphasize that reported — Chinese spy. I said on X that Nvidia is now in its first true crisis arguably since its founding in 1993 on a napkin at Denny's by Jensen. Some of you pushed back on me, calling it a crisis, calling attention to Nvidia's strong demand pipeline and leadership position in AI chips. I suspect Jensen's vision has helped make you a lot of money through the years. So I get the first instinct is to sweep this under the rug and voice support for Jensen. I'm not going to sit here and deny you have a point on the fundamentals of the business of Nvidia. I also won't deny that Jensen is a generational founder of a transformational business. But make no mistake, this is a crisis created by Huang that didn't need to happen at all.
And it all boils down to trust. If Jensen can have an affair with a reported Chinese spy — again, I want to emphasize reported — can we trust what he is saying on AI demand being off the charts for as far as the eyes can see? Can we trust he didn't divulge company secrets to this person? Can we trust this is a one-off for Jensen and he will emerge as a changed human being? Can we trust he will finally put forth a clear succession plan at Nvidia? So there's all that. Then there is this other aspect of trust. Nvidia is not only one of the world's most valuable companies with a market cap of $4.5 trillion, but it has lent its own creditworthiness to speed up infrastructure growth. Over the last two years, Nvidia has offered $300 billion in financial support to customers in addition to investing billions into startups including neoclouds like CoreWeave. At the epicenter of this is trust in Jensen, the human, and trust in Jensen leading the company at such a high level that he can make good on all these financial commitments, and as he makes good on these financial commitments, his wallet will stay open to support the AI ecosystem in good times and bad. We can agree to disagree on this being an Nvidia crisis, but there's no disagreement on Jensen having breached the trust of his investors, big and small, and of course breaching the trust of his family.
Now, I want to continue all along this Jensen analysis, and that's what I'm doing here. I'm not going down the trove of the photos and the commentary I saw out there on X, which borders — it's a lot. That's not what we do here. I just want to give you the analysis, and I want to start here with this succession plan or lack thereof. Now, since Nvidia's founding by Jensen on a Denny's napkin in 1993, we have followed Jensen on an amazing journey for a CEO, for a founder. We follow Jensen around the world to his various trips as he built this generational company. We follow him as he puts on a black jacket at various GTC events. We've all wondered what if he's going to be wearing a sparkly black leather jacket or just a straightforward Tom Ford leather jacket. People have bought Jensen memorabilia on auction at a high price. We have watched him eat fried chicken at overseas trips and that get highly publicized when he's eating that fried chicken with other billionaires. So we've watched this, and we've seen Nvidia create massive wealth for not only the people inside of that company, but also for a lot of the average investors and institutional investors out there watching this program. But through it all, we know jack squat about Nvidia's succession plan.
And that is basically a byproduct of the flat leadership structure that Nvidia has. I mean, he has tens — he has, I believe, 60 people reporting directly to him. This is basically the Nvidia leadership. And I want to call out, you have the co-founder there, but to my knowledge, he's not exactly involved in day-to-day operations. What do you notice here? These are all longtime Nvidia executives, but they're all executive vice presidents. Now, in a normal public company, it is usually signaled via the president title. In addition to, if you're a CFO or COO, you get that president title, because if the CEO were to step away for whatever reason, retire, it's usually the president and COO or the president and CFO that step up and take that position. It's up now to Jensen and this board to clearly define who succeeds him, if he is forced to leave the company, if he decides to leave the company in the wake of this. It's unclear what happens here. All we know is that the Nvidia board is investigating this entire situation. But it is now up to that Nvidia board, in addition to investigating Jensen's behavior, to signal clearly who the successor is, because we have no idea. It's not in proxy statements. It's not in the annual report. This business since 1993 has been led by Jensen Huang, a generational founder that has created generational technology who is powering the next generation of AI in the United States and in many respects around the world. Now it's up to Nvidia and its board to signal who would succeed him for whatever reason. It's the right thing to do for investors, and it finally has to happen. This can't continue.
So one of these folks theoretically should get elevated to president and something. My bet is on Colette Kress, one of the best CFOs in the game. I've had the opportunity to talk to Colette in the past. She knows Nvidia's business inside and out, incredibly respected on Wall Street. So again, keep an eye on Colette. Very important. All these folks are important, but now I think she deserves to get that president title and be that person waiting in the wings should something happen to Jensen as this investigation plays out on a grand world scale.
Now, I also don't want to forget about the AI sell-off that we have been seeing over the past few weeks, because you know that was one of the major stories before this Jensen story. And you know, the first thought is that AI stocks have been selling off because of fears of overvaluation, and now we have the blue wave. I get it. But there has been another story starting to emerge, and it's this: you have the likes of Apple and Amazon starting to, I think, more closely scrutinize how much AI they're spending inside of their own companies. Look, you've had Apple encourage employees to scale back their token usage in the company. You have had Amazon scale back the token usage within their company and look for cost savings, because the costs to operate AI functions and workflows in the business have probably gotten out of hand. I mean, some of these executives have probably lost their minds when catching the bills for all things AI.
And I like what Miller Tabak chief market strategist Matt Maley had to say on this topic. He's saying this is the first sign of pushback on higher prices for AI tools, and that is a nugget I think that the market overlooked. Now, the market has been focused on the blue wave and the slowdown in data centers, and they're right to do so. However, I think you have to pay attention to the pushback on AI pricing inside a lot of these companies. It could be something that snowballs, and this is something, in my humble view, is not priced in or factored into the earnings estimates of a lot of these AI companies. You look at a lot of the earnings estimates for a lot of the main players in the AI ecosystem. I think it's under the assumption that we will see AI demand just ripping higher for many more years to come at whatever prices AI companies decide to charge large enterprises. It doesn't exactly work that way. A lot of these companies are public, and they have to watch the bottom line and protect their bottom line, and they're not going to be spending willy-nilly on AI.
And then outside of AI, I want to focus on this too, because while we're sitting here focused on, you know, Jensen, look at the other company he's competing with. That's AMD and CEO Lisa Su, who continues to get it done over at AMD amidst this. And shout out to the Oppenheimer team — they just came out and upgraded AMD, citing strong data center demand for the balance of this year, strong data center demand for the balance of next year. Oppenheimer not mentioning anything regarding Nvidia, but if you are down on Nvidia and you are down on what Jensen did here, you have the opportunity to look at a company like AMD with a strong outlook, a strong business, and no controversy surrounding its business. In fact, here's what AMD CEO Lisa Su told me about demand she's seeing in her business.
Lisa Su 9:43 ↗
Most companies, if you look at how they plan, they plan on an annual cycle. They say, 'Hey, we're going to do an annual operating plan. These are the budgets. These are the things that we're going to do.' With AI and the progress that we're making through AI adoption throughout the industry, what we're seeing is what used to be — and let's call it, you know, fairly static plans — are now actually becoming pretty dynamic. You're realizing how fast the adoption curve is going. You actually see an opportunity, like I said, with, you know, Muse is one of the best examples. I mean, over 10 million people activating in the span of 45 days — I mean, that's pretty incredible. Like, that's an adoption curve that, you know, probably wasn't in the regular plan, and we're seeing that across a number of applications. And so from our standpoint, we are very dynamic. You know, we're a tech company that has a lot of resources and the ability to expand our supply and expand our ability to help our customers, and that's what's led to, you know, tremendous growth. So, being able to say that my data center business is going to grow 50% sequentially from Q3 to Q4, it's a big step up, and it's a testament to how important computing is in the industry today. And, you know, we're looking to double the business, more than double the business as we go into next year. We are a data center first company. That is our profile, and, you know, people need more computing to power all of these applications.
Brian Sozzi 11:15 ↗
So AMD right there, that's your choice. If you're down on Nvidia, you're down on Jensen, you're concerned about what might happen next, that's the business led by AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su, crushing it. That's the other opportunity in AI that you owe it to yourself to crunch the numbers on. I want to say on Tech here, Dan Niles, founder of Niles Investment Management, is here. Dan, good to see you. It's been a while. Look, one of my principles I have here on my set, it's that CEOs should be held accountable. What does accountability look like for Jensen and Nvidia in your view?
Dan Niles 11:50 ↗
Well, look, I've known Jensen for 30 years. This is a horrible situation, but you know, it doesn't change the fact that he's a generational CEO, one of the best in the business right now, and I hope he gets to continue to lead the company going forward.
Brian Sozzi 12:09 ↗
How important is Jensen to the next few years of Nvidia?
Dan Niles 12:16 ↗
It isn't. I mean, think about it this way. He's got a very deep bench. And a historical example is what happened to Apple after Steve Jobs passed away. Unfortunately, did it collapse?
So, Jensen's done a great job of empowering people underneath him. I think one thing that will happen is there will be a successor appointed. The board will force that, and so, you know, I think that will occur out of this. But is Jensen important to the company? Absolutely. Are there products in the pipeline, much like when Steve Jobs passed away, that will keep the company going for the next, you know, couple of years? Absolutely. But is Jensen very important to the company? Completely. So those are two separate thoughts, but they can both coexist.
Brian Sozzi 13:12 ↗
Does it damage — you know, I mentioned at the top of the show that Nvidia has made a lot of investments in other companies. I think what their stake is in a company like CoreWeave. Does it damage the trust in Nvidia being that backstop to a lot of the AI trades?
Dan Niles 13:29 ↗
No, I don't think so. I mean, this trade has been taking on water for a long time. I mean, this started back in June. I put out a note saying, 'Hey, I think we're going to see an AI speed bump,' because companies at that time were already trying to control their AI spending costs. And then before the elections, I had a podcast on Tuesday where I said I was terrified of what would happen on the other side of the midterms because my belief was there was going to be a blue wave. And, you know, I published on that as well. And so we're seeing that, all of that combined with the fact that there is obviously circular financing, but don't forget this happened during the internet bubble as well. And that can continue for a few years until the bubble ultimately breaks. I don't think we're at the top. Could be. I mean, it very well could be, depending on what these incoming governors of these different states like Texas, Georgia, Ohio, you know, New Mexico, Michigan, which all flipped, what they decide to do. I mean, there's about 40% of incremental data center capacity at risk, and the circular financing ties into all that. And I've written about this. Even the companies that Nvidia backed couldn't get public. Firmus Grid, if you remember, that IPO has gotten pushed back. NScale, which Nvidia also backed, that IPO's also been pushed back. We'll see at what price Anthropic comes out at and how much they can raise. But all of this has been going on. This clearly doesn't help the situation, but, you know, there's much bigger problems in the industry than just one person.

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