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Lori Stahl
Senior Vice President & Chief People Officer, SYNAPTICS INC

Training Synergy: Insights from Compliance & HR Integration with Lori Stahl

🎥 May 01, 2025 📺 Compliance Podcast Network ⏱ 23m 👁 7 views
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About Lori Stahl

Lori Stahl, Senior Vice President and Chief People Officer at Synaptics, discussed the integration of compliance and human resources in a May 2025 podcast appearance. Stahl stated that she prefers to "own it from the people function" because she thinks about the employee experience, adding that a disjointed compliance strategy can feel that way to employees. She described evaluating content to avoid overlap and counting the minutes employees spend on training. Stahl said she advised her team to "try not to customize anything" in training, though she noted the value of starting with a personalized video from leadership. Stahl also shared views on future compliance training trends. She expressed a desire for more personalized content that connects an employee's role to the material, and for real-time microlearning delivered through multiple channels. She said that artificial intelligence could play a role in compliance, such as through AI compliance coaches or chatbots that provide quick answers to HR questions. Stahl emphasized that managers are key, stating that employees are more likely to bring an issue to their manager than to HR or compliance.

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Transcript (32 segments)
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Tom Fox0:06
Hello everyone. This is Tom Fox back for another episode. I'm absolutely thrilled that we have as our guest Lorie Stall. With that, Roxanne, I'm going to pitch it to you as our host.
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Roxanne Petraeus0:17
Thank you so much, Tom. Lori, thank you so much for hanging out with me. Hello. Always a pleasure. You're so kind. What I figured I would do is introduce you from how I know you and then please fill in your professional background, what you think is relevant or even personal background. And I'll actually go ahead and introduce myself as well because I'm not the usual host of this podcast. That host is Tom. So I'm Roxanne Petraeus. I'm the co-founder and CEO of Athena, which is a compliance training company. I also am a mom of two. You may hear one of my kids in the background despite my best to do noise cancelling. And I got really interested about the ethics, compliance, and training space from my experience as an active duty army officer realizing that when you can get training right, it has a really profound impact on the organization. Lori, I got to know you through an amazing organization called People Tech Partners because you yourself are chief people officer, a longtime sort of HR leader. And I think it's really great to get to talk with you because normally on this podcast, I'm talking with compliance leaders, but in building Athena, and in serving our wonderful customers, I've learned that compliance and HR actually have a lot of overlaps in terms of things that they're trying to communicate to a company, occasionally maybe feeling like they don't always get the time, space, or resources to get their message out there because they're competing with sales or something. And I just think there's a ton of lessons learned in terms of how you build a great culture that compliance leaders can learn from HR leaders. So Lori, maybe to kick us off, would you mind giving your background and intro as well?
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Lori Stahl1:48
Yeah, sure. Lori Stahl, I'm the chief people officer at Synaptics. I'm based here in California. I have over 25 years of experience in HR. I've directly or indirectly led all of the functions throughout my career. On the personal side, I'm a mom as well to two daughters in college, a wife. Can't forget the furry dog as well. Very important. Yes. And so, luckily, I'm at work. Otherwise, you would hear her probably snoring in the background as well. So, I understand that we have to do every day.
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Roxanne Petraeus2:20
Totally. I feel like snoring dogs are much cuter background than like a kid who pops in and is 'can I have my video game now.' That's a little more annoying, but I love that. Okay. I have gotten to know you because Synaptics has been a wonderful customer of Athena. You've got to see our approach to compliance training. And I'd love to know in different organizations, sometimes HR controls compliance training, sometimes it's a stakeholder, sometimes it's compliance. Could you talk to me a little about how you've seen that work in terms of who owns training and how do you think maybe it should work? What's the best way that these stakeholders can work together?
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Lori Stahl2:55
Yeah, I think it's a great question and it's often a hot potato in a company that people are passing around. And so I think in the most effective companies it's where certainly led probably by the people function along a deep partnership with the legal function but also when it's owned by all of the leaders and managers.
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Roxanne Petraeus3:18
Totally. I think something and I'm curious if you've had this experience but when I've seen organizations that have it very siloed so maybe HR owns say harassment prevention training, IT owns infosec, data privacy owns data privacy, compliance owns code of conduct or whatever. One of many things that can go wrong there is that from the employee experience it's not really optimal because it's not... and I think most employees aren't aware of all these different functions. They're like 'I don't know, it's mandatory training, looks the same to me.' Could you talk a little bit about what can go wrong if it's super siloed?
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Lori Stahl3:53
Yeah, absolutely. This is actually really important to me. So, I do actually like to own it from the people function because I think first and foremost about the employee experience and I think that if you get a disjointed compliance strategy, it very much looks and feels like that to employees. And so, one of the things that I try to do from our people function is really just to pull it all together with all of those functions. And so even if they might be owning the content because certainly they're the subject matter experts, we want to build it in one platform with one strategy with one time compliance time cadence. A component to ensure that employees aren't being overloaded. We don't want employees to tune in. It's important information that they need to know to run our business effectively. And so we want to make sure that strategy is seamless across the company. So does that answer that?
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Roxanne Petraeus4:44
Totally. Yeah. I think your point on employee experience, that's why I've seen a couple of our customers who recently went from very siloed to a comprehensive approach. They actually had people or employee experience owning that because they were thinking about, hey, I'm the random salesperson. What is my experience of this versus thinking of it from I'm a compliance leader. I think about this all day or I'm a people leader. This is like a key part of my job. So, I think that's super smart.
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Lori Stahl5:10
Yeah. And I have an employee experience team that's just thinking about that. We put together a content calendar. We solicit information from around the business to make sure that messages aren't being stepped on by another team and so everything gets the spotlight that it's due but then you know we're not overloading employees. I think that overloading is so crucial. I've heard a lot of complaints about hey it feels like we're taking too much time away from our core business function because we have 6, 8, 10 hours. You recently have done a roll out and a revamp. You brought us on or I guess recentlyish. I feel like all things blend together in my memory of time. Could you talk about how you thought about the right balance of using the right topics and ideas out but not overtraining?
Yeah, it was certainly something we thought a lot about because training there are so many requirements that are time-based and so if you add up all of the amount of time that it takes in a quarter or a year to train employees, it's significant. And so what we really tried to do is evaluate the content to make sure that it wasn't overlapping, that it was relevant, but wasn't the same messages over and over again. We count literally the minutes that employees are spending doing training. And that was one of the biggest goals of our program was to make the content relevant, engaging, and certainly from a time perspective to make sure we're not taking too much away from employees and their need to do their day job.
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Roxanne Petraeus6:39
Really smart. And you took on the burden. You describe it as a hot potato. That's a great description. Maybe you didn't volunteer for this hot potato, but you got it. I just told her that it's okay. That's a very, very good team player. And you made the shift to Athena. And I'm just curious like what challenges were you having in pre-Athena world? And to the extent that we solved them, could you talk to me a little bit about what caused you to be like, hey, I really want to go with a different approach and end up with us?
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Lori Stahl7:06
Yeah, I think one of the main things is remaining compliant and it's really hard to stay current and relevant on all of the relevant industry and regional and local laws around the world. Even when it's a country or area you live in, it's hard to stay on top of. And at Synaptics, we're in foreign countries. And so, we really need a partner like Athena to help ensure that we are on top of the compliance and the ever-changing laws. And that was probably the top thing. The other thing is just again the employee experience. And we were doing a lot of homegrown videos and training modules that were really outdated 5 minutes after we made them on platforms that if somebody left, we had no idea how to actually change the content. So we were recreating things again. So we really needed a seamless platform that would allow the content to stay current and refreshed all the time. And I always just try to take the approach of keeping it simple. I don't think we need to customize everything. I don't think that we have to over-orchestrate it. We can simply buy off-the-shelf relevant content to deliver to our employees and just make it easy administratively and really ultimately make it easy for the employees. And I think Athena really helped us accomplish that task. And sorry, the last thing I would add because otherwise my system team will say you forgot about me is your systems team rocks. They absolutely do. The integration with our HRIS is really important and our learning management system. So we're lucky enough to have one whereas lots of companies don't which then Athena can of course stand on its own. But with ours, modules and our courses were breaking. So we were getting hundreds of tickets and employees complaining about the way that it works and the sound and it would cut off and all kinds of things. And after we went through one full year of cycle, our tickets were greatly reduced to almost nothing. More user error things. Don't tell the employees. It's never user error when it's a suite. Right. Yeah. And so again, we don't need training to get in the way. They're frustrated already, unfortunately, that they have to take it. And so we really needed a system that just works. And I feel like we also accomplished that with Athena.
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Roxanne Petraeus9:21
I love that. And I love your realistic approach of an employee. This is probably not the email that they get most excited about receiving in a year. Hey, you've got mandatory training. And so I think that it's really smart to accept that and instead say, okay, how can we earn some trust? Because they might already be a little bit grumpy. You talked about at one point having made training in-house, and I love your description of it basically going stale like immediately after you call cut on the video or whatever. I definitely talked to compliance leaders who occasionally have this vision of we're going to make all of our own stuff and it's going to look and feel very us. And I think it can be done. Usually it's done if you have a really big team and budget and all that, but could you talk a bit about the challenges of having to make content yourself?
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Lori Stahl10:05
Yeah, absolutely. And again, one of the challenges is knowing the content, knowing the... going to go back to knowing the regional and industry laws. We not just having a small team, but you really have to have experts. And I'm also super fortunate that we have really great in-house employment counsel and not everybody is also lucky enough to have that. But it's hard to stay current on all of those. You can talk about the tactical aspects of just producing content right and making it work which I also don't have a whole team of people to do that. But then also ensuring that you've got the content right and also thinking about it from a regional perspective. And I don't also think that one size fits all around the world. And so some of our content, we need to think about how do we tailor it to the local culture or language. And certainly we're not experts in that. And so what I want to stick to is what are the messages that we need to reinforce? What are the compliance or training if you will to help move our business forward and then leave the hard stuff to the experts.
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Roxanne Petraeus11:11
It's my favorite, right? It's all those hard things we get to do. But I think it's you're right there or I think it's very smart to say, 'Hey, what are we uniquely good at?' And I think one of the things you're uniquely good at is maybe your culture best, right? You're always going to be the expert. Could you talk to me about how you've decided if you want to customize or tweak here or there? Like how has that experience been of like, hey, I don't want to make all this from scratch, but I would like to change happy to glad start with a video from leadership or anything like that. Any lessons learned from that?
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Lori Stahl11:42
Yeah. So again, I kept saying to the team, try not to customize anything. So really tried to take that approach. Realistic. Yeah. Yeah. I think what was nice is we were able to if we needed if we wanted to start with maybe a personalized video. I think it's important when the leaders and the CEOs are certainly reinforcing the messages, right? That they're actively modeling and discussing compliance issues and really turning into champions. And then also what I think is nice is you can do really small customizations. And again I find this unique with Athena is we can link employees back to our own intranet or to our own policies. And so while we don't have to specifically embed the Synaptics for example information into the content, we can certainly link them to that information. So it draws the connection between sort of the generic I hate to use that word but you know the vanilla version of the compliance and then how does that relate to your role here at Synaptics?
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Roxanne Petraeus12:40
I love that because I feel like for the employee sometimes that connection is really tricky, right? You're like okay and what do you want me to do? I'm not being presented with bags of money labeled bribe. What is it that you want me to be aware of? And it's oh this. And you're like okay cool. I think that can be really powerful. Yeah. I feel like I would be remiss just like you shouted out your team. I asked you at one point how's your experience been with Alana and you joked like how long do you have? Yeah. I'm always shocked in the compliance and HR tech space. I hear a lot of frustrations where like my vendor doesn't listen. They tell me something's on the road map but I have never seen yet or just like basic stuff in my view as a business owner of getting back to people quickly and listening and like showing that you have time. The vendor bad behavior has really surprised me in both the HR tech and the compliance space. Could you just wax poetic about Alana and your experience with Athena's customer success team?
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Lori Stahl13:35
Absolutely, and among other things obviously which started with you but there's lots of reasons why I became a fan of Athena. And it is sad. You meet with vendors and it's all of HR tech. I'm sure it's outside of HR tech too, not just to pick on HR side, but you know, you hear about all these great platforms and the services they provide. And I have truly not had a vendor that really delivers that after implementation. Even during implementation, you can start to see cracks of it. And with Athena, I think what's been really important is that we've had that partnership throughout the process. Not only at the beginning when we were discussing our goals around compliance and how we wanted to enhance the program and really build it into the fabric of our company but then implementing the platform and then afterwards the constant check-ins asking how we're doing. We can call and get a real person and it makes a difference and we're not left to as I have been in lots of other places create materials, figure out how to fix things. And Athena has been a really great partner from that perspective and it is very unique. And I certainly can't diagnose why it happens. I know it's hard especially with small companies to have that customer service arm of your company and how do you make that scalable right so you can offer the same type of service but I think it's absolutely a differentiator in the industry.
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Roxanne Petraeus14:58
Totally, and it is hard and these are people like you have to make a decision to staff those roles. Something that I have found is that our customers tend to give us the best insight on what we should build next and so it doesn't end up being just customer success helping you with your roll out. It always teaches us something, you know, about like, oh, okay, we really ought to change the way that this Workday integration flows or I think that if viewed in the what do we get out of this, we being the vendor here, I think it could just be like the most powerful part of the organization because it's a yeah, you customers know far better than we do what do you need in your day to be successful. So, I love that. Let's see, maybe last question would be like any dreams you have for what in the future Athena could roll out to support your training program. I always just love. Was there anything where you're like this would be like a really neat way for this to develop? Not to make you write our product road map or anything?
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Lori Stahl15:49
Oh, no. I could nerd out on HR tech and innovation all day long. There's a I have several things, but there are probably a couple things that come to mind. I'd love to see things evolve into being a little bit more personal, right? Making a direct connection between the employee's role and the content. I don't necessarily think one size fits all. So something that is more role specific or scenario-based adaptive learning could also fit in there as well like speeding up to slow down based on employee skill. Yeah. Another thing that comes to mind is more real time microlearning. So like little bite-sized contents delivered in multiple avenues and channels. Learning that old theory of just for me just in time. Like I think about it in terms of a Slackbot, right? Where it might send a short compliance nudge to or a quick ethics reminder to somebody before your contract is signed. Totally. And then sorry the last one again I could talk about it all day for all of it. If we think about AI might have two more. I think AI can of course play an important role in compliance as well like AI compliance coaches or chatbots. So maybe an HR leader could ask 'Can I ask a candidate about a previous salary?' and they get a quick accurate response, a safe place to practice their skills, inserts the compliance part of that of are you allowed to ask that what are the rules around it so it's giving them real time practical application while inserting the compliance component. Totally. And then one of the things I think you already do well is the storytelling. And instead of using legal jargon and things that employees don't necessarily understand or frankly are boring, you're using stories, interactive silly roleplaying, ways to illustrate compliance challenges in a non-traditional way, which I think engages people differently.
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Roxanne Petraeus17:42
So glad I asked this because I love these ideas. Some of them are things that my co-founder and I, who's our CTO, spent a lot of time talking about like how could we further leverage AI. I'll give like a plug for a couple things we're doing because ironically for another Tom Fox podcast I recorded with Katherine of Zenefits they're leveraging our adaptive learning feature to do some like test out stuff. So if you ever want to do that talk to Alana when she's back from mat leave but you'll have someone covering and I think that's really cool. It's one use case of many of adaptive learning. So it could be hey take this quiz beforehand and if you don't score X or above you are going to get more training or you're going to get training just on the modules that you missed. But I think it's the same way we have a cyber security training in a phishing simulator. And the way that our customers use it is they fish their team and then whoever fails the fish, you click on the bad link, surprise, you get your additional cyber security training. And I think that's actually a really effective way to do training because you're tying it to an action versus just, hey everybody, you need this. And then I think you're so right that we have a lot of customers who are doing role-based training today using Athena, which I think is really neat. So maybe more anti-bribery training or specific training to the sales team especially if they're government facing like really being smart about almost their matrix of risks and then assigning training based on that. But I think also with some of the developments we're thinking about using AI in our product I think that could get even more sophisticated so that Lori's training looks different than Roxanne's training based on a bunch of factors not just our role in the organization. So, I love this vision of personalized effective training.
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Lori Stahl19:17
Yeah. And there's so many things that managers deal with on a daily basis and they make these judgments and they do have implications or consequences for the company from a compliance perspective. And so, if there was a little bit of an easier way for them to get that customized right at that moment coaching, I think that would be amazing.
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Roxanne Petraeus19:39
Man, you are the perfect guest because you're segueing into maybe the last thing I'll just ring up, which is Athena in partnership with Ethosphere and Ethosphere puts out such great content. And one of the things that they say is exactly what you're saying, which is I think what HR people know in their bones, which is like managers are really where it's at. You could train the organization till they're blue in the face or you could really focus on managers because at this year's data shows that like employees are much more likely to bring an issue first to their manager versus bring it to HR or bring it to compliance. And so like that group of people is so important to your culture, to your ethics, that's where things break down, but it's also where things can be successful. And so we're releasing a course that's just targeted toward them on these sorts of like common kind of issues that they're faced with in a very real way. Not, hey Tim, this thing is going wrong in a very legally way, but more, hey, do you have just five minutes? I've been noticing this thing and I'm a little uncomfortable about it, but I don't know, maybe it's how we do work here. And those are those moments where you really want your managers to have their ears open. So, I'm so glad that you raised that because I think it's like the perfect intersection of HR and compliance.
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Lori Stahl20:45
Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. Again, you're not going to walk into the airport most likely and somebody's going to hand you a bag of money and say, 'Can I have your code from your company about these?' That really apply to managers and help them on things that are actually happening in their day-to-day basis, day-to-day life. I should 100%.
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Roxanne Petraeus21:02
Lori, this is such a delight to chat with you. Thank you so much for being such a wonderful leader, a really great advocate for Athena and writing our product roadmap in the future.
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Lori Stahl21:13
I'm thrilled. I love what you guys are doing. So, I'm just happy to be a little bit a part of it.
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Roxanne Petraeus21:19
Oh my goodness. Okay, cool. Tom, I'm happy to invite you back onto your podcast.
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Tom Fox21:27
So, I just today, Tom, I just want to say I always say it's about the UX. I'm gonna have to amend that based on what you said, Roxanne, because you talked about the Athena learning from your customer and integrating lessons back into both products and services in a way that I've not heard a product provider talk about before. So, kudos. It's more than just the UX.
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Roxanne Petraeus21:52
We've got really smart customers, so I like to learn from them. This has just been a really delightful experience for me behind the scenes and just listening to you all. This has been great. I typically say I hope we can continue this conversation, but I'm also going to amend that to say I hope you two can continue this conversation. I think we'll be chatting in the future.
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Lori Stahl22:14
Yeah, for sure. Absolutely.
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Roxanne Petraeus22:16
Thank you.
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