About C. Koch
Jim Koch, founder and chairman of Boston Beer Company, appeared on the podcast "How I Built This" in August 2024 to offer advice to entrepreneurs. During the episode, he discussed business challenges with founders, including one seeking capital for a tea-bag-soup-broth business. Koch suggested asking Walmart for faster payment terms, saying "Walmart wants you to succeed" and that they are "nice to little guys."
In a March 2024 interview, Koch discussed the development of Samuel Adams' non-alcoholic beer, describing it as "very tea forward" with "high quality tea." He noted that the core drinker was a "blue-collar drinker, but a kind of educated blue-collar drinker." Koch has also reflected on his decision to leave a corporate job at Boston Consulting Group to start the brewery, stating "staying there was very risky. Leaving it was not risky." He described a 1995 IPO strategy where coupons on six-packs allowed consumers to buy shares at $15 each, saying investment banks "freaked out" but he "stood my ground" and "refused to compromise."
Source: AI-verified profile updated from C. Koch's recent appearances.
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Transcript (28 segments)
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Excuse me, guys. Who's the richest person here?
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How did you get rich?
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C. Koch0:04
I created your favorite beer.
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What beer?
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C. Koch0:06
Samuel Adams.
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Interviewer0:07
You created Samuel Adams in my kitchen 40 years ago.
What was the most amount of money you made in a single year?
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C. Koch0:12
Gosh, $2 billion.
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Interviewer0:14
So, selling beer made you a billionaire?
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Take me back to the most life-changing conversation that you ever had. What's the greatest advice that you ever received?
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C. Koch0:21
You know, it actually came from my uncle. I remember he called me and he was one of my original investors. He asked me, 'What did you do today, Jim?' And I said, 'I went and shoed for computers.' He cut me off. He says, 'Oh, computers.' You know, Jim, I've seen a lot of businesses that went broke. And they all had computers, but they went broke because they didn't have any sales. Go out and get one customer every day. And don't come home till you got that customer.
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Interviewer0:45
They say that sales cures everything.
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C. Koch0:47
That's exactly right. No business went broke because they had too many sales.
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Interviewer0:51
When did you learn that you can't get rich working for somebody else?
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C. Koch0:54
In my entire life, I've never had a boss. And this is another good piece of advice. If you get to the point where you can go public, keep the voting shares. So, we went public, but I have all the voting shares.
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You don't want anybody else to control your baby.
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Interviewer1:07
And do you think that's to the risk of taking on too much investors?
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C. Koch1:10
Yeah, because I don't want to work my ass off every day for somebody else.
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Interviewer1:13
How old do you know?
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If me and you die tomorrow and you could leave one more guiding principle with the younger generation to become a billionaire, what would that be?
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C. Koch1:21
If your ambition is to become a billionaire, good luck. And in some ways, getting rich is life's biggest booby prize. People who aren't happy want to get rich. And you know what? Would you rather be rich or happy?
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C. Koch1:35
There you go.
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Interviewer1:36
You got amazing advice, sir. Thanks so much for your time.
