Ford CEO Jim Farley discusses his company's overhaul of its EV business, scrapping its planned all-electric F-series, and shifting its focus to more hybrid models, including an extended-range hybrid vehicle. He speaks with hosts Matt Miller, Romaine Bostick and Katie Greifeld.
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1:35Where are you gaining an opportunity from this, Jim?
3:08Jim, with regard to that pivot and the energy storage side of it, do you anticipate any concerns by the White House, by the administration here in the US, that you are partnering effectively with a Chinese company in order to do that?
4:00When it comes specifically to that new business line, how long would you expect before that alone becomes profitable?
6:26Are you going to be able to build steel trucks, for example, at the Tennessee plant?
8:37What gives you the confidence that you'll be able to turn that around by 2029?
9:41As you make this pivot back to sort of the classic American pickup truck, what will you do to keep up with the Chinese as they continue to make strides forward?
We learned that Ford is undergoing a sweeping overhaul of its electric vehicle business. It's going to amount to about $19.5 billion in charges. It's also going to include scrapping its next generation electric F-Series truck as it shifts gears to a hybrid. Joining us right now to talk a little bit more about this is the host of Bloomberg's Open Interest, Matt Miller, and he brings along with him the CEO of Ford, Jim Farley.
Jim, thanks very much for joining us. This is a major pivot to say the least, but I think we could all see it coming because the consumer basically helped make this decision for you. Tell us what has driven these plans.
Well, as you said, it was really the customer changing their decision. You know, we saw hybrids really take off the last couple years. Last month, we had a 30% increase in our hybrid sales. We're now number three, and I think we're 80% hybrid market share in trucks. So we saw this happening. We also saw the more expensive EVs really suffer in the market and the more affordable EVs do better. And then the last couple months was really remarkable. The EV market in the US went from 12% in the industry to only 5%. And that really in the end was the big decider for us. But look, we're going to 50% electric. It just will be hybrids and E-REVs and electric. It won't be just pure electrics.
You know, every good trader knows you got to cut your losses when you recognize there's an issue. You're doing that in this sense with the F-150 Lightning as we now know it and the T3 project, the next generation truck that would have been built in Tennessee. But you're able to salvage some assets, and as a result, you've raised your profitability forecast from 6 to 6.5 billion for this year in terms of EBIT to 7 billion. Where are you gaining an opportunity from this, Jim?
Great question. And this year in the short term, it's really our cost of our company. Our quality is getting better and so our costs are much more competitive. In fact, the Nollis aluminum has cost us more like two billion, but we're still raising guidance. Look, for this announcement, Matt, it's really about moving to more profitable vehicles. You know, we're going to make in Tennessee now an affordable pickup truck. I think it's going to really surprise the market. These are customers we know, not a lot of guesswork in terms of the revenue, the cost we need to get out, and a more affordable van in Ohio. So these are going to be better investments for the company profit, and all those hybrid sales are really profitable vehicles for us as we basically deploy hybrid across our lineup. But we're also going into the energy storage business to 20 gigawatt hours. That's a big move. We're going to convert our battery plants from automotive batteries to energy storage batteries using LFP. That's also a big pivot that is profit positive for the company.
Jim, with regard to that pivot and the energy storage side of it, do you anticipate any concerns by the White House, by the administration here in the US, that you are partnering effectively with a Chinese company in order to do that?
Well, look, it's our plant. It's our people, and we designed it that way. We have a licensing agreement, but we feel like it's better to build these batteries in the United States with American workers, with our own Ford workers, and understand the IP than to import them like they're being done today. The best way to compete with the Chinese is to get close to the IP and then run the plants at Ford. When Ford knows how to build things, we know how to do this. So I think this is much better for America. We're talking about thousands of incremental jobs versus importing batteries like we see today. Much better for America.
To continue on the energy storage business, you mentioned that this will be profit positive for the company. When it comes specifically to that new business line, how long would you expect before that alone becomes profitable?
Great question. Well, we're busy now. We have to move very fast. This business moves much faster than the auto business. We're converting our Michigan plant as we speak with all new equipment to make energy storage, which is slightly different than automotive. And then we're building a whole new plant, converting Kentucky 1 to 20 gigawatt hours, and that will be landing in late 2027. We're going to be selling and servicing batteries, not just the cells as a contract manufacturer. We're actually going to be selling the huge storage containers to utility companies and the AI data center companies in 2027. We're already out there quoting this business now. We know what kind of price points we need to get to for it to be profitable. And this is not our first rodeo as a manufacturing company.
It looks like, Jim, that we've gotten new regulations or seen older regulations scrapped both here and overseas in terms of what's necessary. I'm wondering if the administration here in the US and the EU have helped you and other car makers really serve customer needs better, because we're seeing your rivals also bring back products that were previously canceled, like the Hemi over at Stellantis, that customers wanted.
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Farley, J. (2025, December 15). Ford CEO Jim Farley Talks EV Business Overhaul & Extended-Range Hybrid Vehicles | Bloomberg Talks [Interview transcript]. Bloomberg Podcasts. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/570466/
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James Farley. "Ford CEO Jim Farley Talks EV Business Overhaul & Extended-Range Hybrid Vehicles | Bloomberg Talks." Bloomberg Podcasts, 15 Dec. 2025. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/570466/.
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