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Abdellatif Jouahri
Governor, Bank Al-Maghrib

Gouverneur Abdellatif Jouahri sur les réformes qui ont mis le Maroc sur la bonne voie

📅 Jan 01, 2026 IMF 32 MIN 20 VIEWS 23 SEGMENTS · 3 SPEAKERS
Abdellatif Jouahri est le gouverneur de Banque Al-Maghrib depuis 2003 et l'homme derrière les grandes réformes qui ont fait du Maroc l'une des économies les plus importantes de la région du Moyen-Orient et de l'Afrique du Nord (MENA). Dans cet épisode, Jouahri s'entretient avec Taline Koranchelian, directrice adjointe du Département Moyen-Orient et Asie centrale du FMI pour évoquer sa longue et éminente carrière. Leur conversation a eu lieu à la veille des Assemblées Annuelles 2023 qui se tiendront au Maroc en octobre.

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 1:26What memories do you have of your first days as the country's finance minister?
  2. 8:39And the IMF, your relationship, how do you see it?
  3. 10:34What is the recipe for this success?
  4. 17:16Okay, if we compare your relationship with the IMF in the 80s and more recently, how do you think the IMF has evolved? Have you noticed any changes?
  5. 21:31What do you think are the keys to success for these reforms and how do you see the role of international institutions such as the IMF or others in this international environment to support Morocco and other countries in these reforms?
  6. 27:35What would you like to see during this week so that you can say that these meetings have been successful?
Narrator 0:01 ↗
I arrived at the finance ministry in early November 1981. This was following painful events and demonstrations in major cities after Morocco's decisions to raise the prices of basic necessities.
Welcome to this podcast from the International Monetary Fund. Today we hear the personal story of the esteemed Abdellatif Jouahri, Governor of the Bank of Morocco since 2003 and the man behind the major reforms that have made Morocco one of the most important economies in the Middle East and North Africa region.
Taline Korin Chalian 0:53 ↗
Thank you very much, Mr. Governor. Thank you for accepting our invitation to record the special edition of our magazine Finance and Development dedicated to the Annual Meetings of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund in Marrakech in October 2023.
Narrator 1:11 ↗
Taline Korin Chalian is Deputy Director of the Middle East and Central Asia Department of the IMF. She spoke with Governor Jouahri in Morocco about her long career.
Taline Korin Chalian 1:26 ↗
Governor, let's begin this conversation in the 1980s when you were Minister of Finance. What do you remember from these days? What memories do you have of your first days as the country's finance minister?
Abdellatif Jouahri 1:40 ↗
So, obviously, this needs to be put into the context of the international situation. These are the years following the second oil shock of 1979, with external factors such as interest rates, oil prices, and all that was very strong. And from the moment I arrived in the finance department, I could already see the vulnerabilities we were going to face. I was part of a government that was still political, where there were very strong traditional political parties. I started to test the waters a little, but I saw that there was a certain reluctance to follow me, even in the painful solutions I was calling for. So time has proven me a little bit right.
In early February 1983, I remember very well, I was in my office and I had with me the vice-governor of the central bank and my assistant told me the director of the foreign department who is in charge of managing the kingdom's foreign exchange reserves wants to see you both. In fact, he was a former colleague since I spent part of my professional life there, I knew him very well. He came into my office, looked miserable, and told me we had no more foreign currency. It was for me, I say, more currency. I have more currency available at the moment. I told the vice-governor, listen, everyone, we're going to think about this from our own perspective. I started to think a little bit, I said to myself, well obviously such news must be brought to the highest level, to the head of state. I called the governor and said, 'Listen, you and I need to have an appointment with His Majesty right away so we can talk to him a little about the situation we are experiencing. We are heading to Fez and obviously we will speak to the director of protocol and say it is urgent.' And he was a general I knew. But when he arrived in his suite at the hotel, he said to me, 'What's going on? Urgent wanted to see His Majesty.' I told him, 'Listen, maybe tomorrow the light you have in this suite won't work anymore.' 'What? The light won't be there anymore?' 'Yes, yes, yes, yes, we're in a situation where maybe tomorrow you won't have your light.' And so the next day, he called me back and said, 'His Majesty, on time, but all alone, without the governor.' So I went very quickly the next day, I was received by the king, I remember, I have this image of myself in a shirt sitting behind him, there was a wrought iron window. He said 'But what the heck is going on?' I said 'Majesty, here I am in my office, and the woman told me we have no more quotes,' and she said, 'What do you propose?' I'm saying this is a completely new situation for me, you know. Now what I propose is that you give me 48 hours, I will ask the team at the International Monetary Fund and obviously through my interlocutor who was the one with whom I was already negotiating in the background usually under Article 4. Indeed, I arrive in Washington but it was at that moment that I understood what the Paris Club, the London Club, the program with the International Monetary Fund and so on were. This is the starting point. You can see that it was with the back team. It's with the back team. Well, I came back and explained all of this to His Majesty. So, what do you recommend in terms of operations? So what I am proposing is a commission that will consider an amending finance law. What do you suggest? I said the sovereign budget, national defense. He told me, 'That's between you and me, I'm the head of the defense, it's between you and me.' And he told me, 'I'm going to put you in conclave for two days.' While comfortably at my secondary residence in Fez, I will send you lunch and dinner, and as with the election of the Pope, you will only speak when you have finalized what you are going to propose as a corrective law. And that's how it happened. And I remember, it was April 30th and May 1st. We'll finalize that, I'll come back to His Majesty and say the program is ready. He told me about the cabinet meeting that same evening, which I was chairing, and I'm going to tell you a little bit in French about what he said in his introduction to the cabinet meeting. He said, 'My ancestors of the dynasty, when the country was in difficulty, they would, I would say, go on conquest. Harka in Arabic. Well, me too, in these circumstances that Morocco is experiencing, which are obviously very difficult, well, I myself am going to go into battle a little bit. Those who want to follow me will obviously be welcome. But those who don't want to follow me and who feel that the situation is too difficult, well, I won't hold it against them. Well, we'll leave them alone.' Obviously, around the table, everyone started saying, 'Not at all, Your Majesty, we are behind you, we will follow you, and so on.' Then, he turns to me. 'So now, tell them what's in store for them.' So, that's how we got into the structural adjustment program.
Taline Korin Chalian 8:39 ↗
That's interesting, isn't it? Very interesting. That's how we got into the structural adjustment program. And the IMF, your relationship, how do you see it?
Abdellatif Jouahri 8:51 ↗
Listen, I'll tell you now about how the program unfolded. I admit they showed intelligence and relative flexibility because at the time the rules were very strict, you know. I remember we had a double ceiling, a ceiling for government spending, a ceiling for bank credit, and so on. But as I recall, we never met the criteria 100%. We were always around 95%. And that's where I found that the Fund and its structures, that is, the Council, demonstrated both intelligence and, I would say, understanding within the framework of what we were doing.
Taline Korin Chalian 9:48 ↗
So, the Fund helped you a little, after all. It was flexible with you.
Abdellatif Jouahri 9:54 ↗
That is to say, when it was convinced of the arguments, it didn't have a dogmatic position, even if it was, let's say, both from partners like the World Bank, which is on the other side, but also the London club, which still represented private sector players, but who are developed countries, and so on. He didn't have a dogmatic position. When he was convinced of the argument, well, he took the side that he could help as much as possible. Well, I remember these two cases that I wanted to mention briefly during this somewhat difficult period when we entered into negotiations with the International Monetary Fund. Yes, that was in the 80s. Well, later.
Taline Korin Chalian 10:34 ↗
So, let's move forward a decade, let's say you spent a decade in the private sector and then you became governor of Bank Al-Maghrib in 2003. Yes. This period marked the beginning of an era of profound structural reforms in Morocco that strengthened the resilience of the Moroccan economy in the face of numerous adverse shocks. What is the recipe for this success?

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Jouahri, A. (2026, January 1). Gouverneur Abdellatif Jouahri sur les réformes qui ont mis le Maroc sur la bonne voie [Interview transcript]. IMF. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/613772/

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Abdellatif Jouahri. "Gouverneur Abdellatif Jouahri sur les réformes qui ont mis le Maroc sur la bonne voie." IMF, 1 Jan. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/613772/.

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@misc{jouahri2026_613772,
  author       = {Abdellatif Jouahri},
  title        = {Gouverneur Abdellatif Jouahri sur les réformes qui ont mis le Maroc sur la bonne voie},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, IMF. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {jan},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/613772/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}