When my team first met Tareq and the ones who didn't know you, by the way. So I'm off script already. The ones that yourself or you didn't know you were like, this guy's talking about all this stuff, and I'm not sure, man, I don't know. And I'm like, you don't know Tareq. So why don't you talk a little bit about Humain and the idea behind it and how it started?
Well, I think, as Chuck said, you know, we know each other for such a long time, but we always participated in driving a significant disruption and innovation and the marriage between building amazing technology and seeing its impact on humanity. I think you and I had the pleasure to see it. So, you know, when we decided to participate together and build Jio at the time. I mean, you remember when you entered, it was pretty stress free. Oh, that, you know, stress at all. There's only 1.4 billion people you have to cater and Mukesh, different story. So, but the reality is, we've seen and witnessed a country where at the time I symbol on our devices, you and I did not recognize, you know, a 2G symbol coming in. And at the time, you know, we're talking ten years ago, we build the all IP infrastructure, build this LTE network, changed the pyramid to in a country that went from 154th in the world and data, index to being number one. And then in Japan, as Chuck said, when I pitched the idea, I said, you know, I'm really obsessed about democratization of infrastructure. And it's important, by the way, to the rationale and the reason and the business model of Humain as well. So, so I pitched to Chuck, I said, Chuck, I'm going to do something in telco that the world said, that cannot be done. We want it to take legacy infrastructure design from proprietary hardware, a move telco to a cloud based infrastructure and, yeah, to what's true. I mean, everybody said that this was a crazy idea. It will not work. But really, this is the time where I loved and enjoyed the relationship that we built with the larger Cisco family. They actually were mostly my employees, to be honest with you, Chuck. I mean, they believed in that. They still are, actually. So, you know, and this journey of my life, I feel I'm really lucky and blessed that I worked in three continents before I started in the U.S. and I tell everybody, this is really where I learned innovation, went to India, I learned skill, went to Japan, I learned precision, move to Saudi Arabia. And this is where I really met ambition and vision. It's remarkable. So, you know, I was invited to participate in an event where I told many people, how much do you know, actually, about Saudi Arabia? Do you know that there's snow in the country? How do you know? So I said that the assumption is maybe it's just desert, but there's snow. Amazing. Crystal blue seas. So, when I took this role, there is one thing that we talked and I heard many of the speakers today talk about, AI. And I thought, the whole world is in, in a stage where we are supply constrained. And I never thought, by the way, that, that there is such a thing that I was called an AI bubble or infrastructure demand will be lower than what it is today. And one thing that Humain was established on, and it probably would have been easier for me to when I went to the chairman of the board, his Royal Highness, I said, let me focus on one thing. I, pitched to my board an idea that we should be a an AI company. Focus on the total AI value chain. So from a data center, compute, diversified chips, models, applications and AI solutions, which is an advisory, business that we have. So, company launched in August last year and we've been really sprinting since August till today.
Yeah, it's really great. And so I guess there's a couple a couple places we could go here. First of all, when you when you talk about, I mean models, Arabic models as well as the infrastructure, the data centers, the full stack of everything. How do you think about how to balance the investments and what you're going to do and what you're not going to do?
And, well, I mean, I think for me, the I mean, think about it, it's, five legal business entities that Humain AI is structured under. So, Humain Core is actually our data center segment. That is the core, the shell, the mechanical, the power. So, the unique value proposition that Saudi has to the world is really power and energy. It's it's, there is an abundance in the country that is just utterly remarkable. And their energy is is not only, traditional energy, but 20% of the energy is also renewable. Effective cost. Chuck, so if we get this right, if we really get this right, what it means we offer not just to local demands on the country, but international demands, a value proposition that is very hard to match anywhere else. Power available today is north of 15 gigawatt of capacity on power. And, at the right price at the right tariffs. So that means your total cost of ownership could be anywhere between 20 to 30% cheaper. So, I wear five hats during my day. I feel sometimes I am a real estate developer, and, a good portion of my work. Obviously a lot of work in collaboration with the Saudi government and the US government on all of the, imports that we have to do for different chips to obviously, offer both inferencing and training. Our model team and science team, I very much focus on the, Arabic realm, but there is no company like Humain would start if you don't fix the fundamental problem, the infrastructure. So this is really the, the key focus for for us right now is to address the infrastructure, not just for local workloads, but really international workloads.
All right. So let's talk a little bit about one of the big scale issues is power. And you talked about how you you have an advantage in Saudi. So we visited the ministry of Energy. Yes. And and the room where we walked in and there were all these people sitting and they were working. Can you talk a little bit about how that process is working out, how you feed requirements and what they're doing to actually help?
Well. So, I mean, I would tell you an experience that happened to me, I had the privilege of obviously working with many government entities both in Japan and India and the US, but something very, very unique about government and Saudi Arabia. It feels like it's a business, actually. So, the way that the the governments are structured is an enablement, not just regulators. So, I'll tell all of you a story, honestly, really an amazing leader is the, his his Royal Highness, the minister of Energy. Yeah, I went to him and I said to him, Your Royal Highness, this problem is very simple. There's a crown prince's brother. Yes. Yeah. And I told him that, I am in need of identification of substations that have power and government land that's available adjacent to this power in less than six weeks. What has happened is a is to me, a miracle. I have not seen 16 government entities came together. They're working from the office of Minister of Energy. You mean was there? This is private public partnership at its best to serve a purpose, to really accelerate human ambition. We have found from this six weeks of effort, 211 pieces of land, north of 14 gigawatt of capacity that we could tap on to. No build is needed for substations. And that's really why I feel super optimistic about the future of where Humain is heading towards. And, a very large reason of the success that we had and the acceleration that we had is how private public entities are working together, to support a larger national objective.
So if we asked a lot of other companies what their biggest impediment to scale is, it would be this issue of power finding the right locations. So given that that's all easy for you, you got that all nailed.
Well, it's not easy. I'm just saying I think what what is the biggest issue that you face in actually scaling? Well, I mean, a couple of things. On the infrastructure piece, I don't want to underestimate this, but, Chuck, I've done massive infrastructure projects in my life. It's not I'm not worried about it or not stressed about it. It's just about execution. Getting, making sure that you have the right team, that we live up to our commitment. I mean, you'll hear from Matt here. I am committed to Matt now and Amazon to to do their first AI, factory outside of the US and Saudi Arabia. He told me to just make sure we confirmed that on stage. So, it's, I'm very, very committed to this, but what I'm really obsessed about is now execution. This is just a matter of execution. There is really. I see no obstacles. An execution is about being in the weeds, micromanaging the project every day, ensuring that all the long lead items for building data center is secured. And, and honestly, like, I'm, I'm feeling very optimistic of what we will unlock and what we will be able to offer, not just locally, but to the world. I think you've heard enough today about power, power, power. And we need more of it, to be able to, keep up with the demand that we're seeing and the market today.
