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Anthony Scaramucci
Founder, SkyBridge Capital

Anthony Scaramucci Unloads on Steve Bannon- The Fifth Column

📅 May 05, 2026 The Fifth Column - A Podcast and Anthony Scaramucci 11 MIN 123454 VIEWS 15 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
This is an excerpt from a Members Only episode #319 of the Fifth Column w/Anthony Scaramucci. Watch the full episode only on Substack: Anthony Scaramucci joins The Fifth Column and wastes no time unloading on Steve Bannon, whom he describes as dangerous precisely because he is smart, ideological, and able to articulate Trumpism in a way Trump never could. From there, the conversation turns to MAGA, immigration, the free press, working-class resentment, and what Trump saw in 2016 that much of the political class missed. -- Hosted by journalists Kmele Foster, Michael Moynihan, and Matt Welch,...

What Anthony Scaramucci said

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Anthony Scaramucci called Steve Bannon the worst person on Earth, a white supremacist who wants to isolate the country, return it to the 1890s, and push out black and brown people. He contrasted Bannon's ability to articulate far-right ideas with Trump's instincts, noting Bannon read Mein Kampf. Scaramucci argued America's lack of generational memory leads to cycles of crisis every 80 years, enabling figures like Bannon. He discussed his books, including 'Trump: The Blue-Collar President,' where he criticized Trump's immigration policy and press attacks, but acknowledged Trump's appeal to economically desperate working-class Americans. He cited NAFTA's impact, losing 65,000 factories, and his father's wages falling 26.12% in purchasing power from 1976 to 2016. He urged reconnecting people to the social contract to prevent populism.

Key takeaways

  1. Scaramucci called Bannon a white supremacist who wants to isolate the country and return it to the 1890s.
  2. He said Bannon read Mein Kampf and could articulate far-right ideas better than Trump.
  3. He cited NAFTA's signing in 1993 leading to 65,000 factory losses in the US by May 2016.
  4. His father's 1976 wages were down 26.12% in purchasing power by 2016.
  5. He argued America's 80-year cycles of crisis enable figures like Bannon.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
65,000 factories lost in the US since NAFTA signing metric 8:40
26.12% decline in father's 1976 wages purchasing power by 2016 metric 8:40
250 years duration of the US government as longest dated in history metric 2:09
80 years cycle of revolution and crisis in America other 2:09
7 trillion dollars expenditure on Middle East war metric 5:21
2018, 2019 years Bannon had a plan for far-right training timeline 2:09

Chapters

  1. 0:00Bannon as the worst person
  2. 0:52Bannon's white supremacist agenda
  3. 1:19Bannon's appeal to Trump
  4. 2:09America's 80-year cycles
  5. 4:42Books on Trump and immigration
  6. 5:21Working-class economic decline
  7. 8:40New Mexico rally and NAFTA

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 1:14Was it those things that Trump liked, all that stuff?
  2. 4:42The ideas from the first administration you seem to be good with, right?
  3. 8:37You said you saw it in New Mexico at a rally in New Mexico. Am I remembering that right?
Anthony Scaramucci 0:00 ↗
And what I said about Steve Bannon is true. He's the worst person that you could meet on planet Earth. Do you believe in God? You're half Irish and half Italian. You believe in God?
Interviewer 0:10 ↗
Neither half Italian.
Anthony Scaramucci 0:10 ↗
You believe in God?
Interviewer 0:11 ↗
I'm pretty close.
Anthony Scaramucci 0:13 ↗
When you want a restoration of your faith in God, I want you to think about Steve Bannon, okay? Because he's charismatic. He's well read. He's conversant in our history. Okay? But God made him so ugly to protect the civilization from him. Okay. So just remember that about God giving him the extra shirt, the three chins and all the double D male tits and all the other stuff that's associated with. He is literally the worst person that you can come across on the planet.
Interviewer 0:48 ↗
Why? I mean I have my theories for Steve Bannon. Yeah. Why do you think?
Anthony Scaramucci 0:52 ↗
Because he's a white supremacist. He would like to isolate the country. He would like to bring the country back into the 1890s and disavow the David Ricardo principle of free trade. He would want to push the black and brown people out of the country and he would want to manufacture everything that the country needs inside the country.

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Scaramucci, A. (2026, May 5). Anthony Scaramucci Unloads on Steve Bannon- The Fifth Column [Interview transcript]. The Fifth Column - A Podcast and Anthony Scaramucci. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/891723/

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Anthony Scaramucci. "Anthony Scaramucci Unloads on Steve Bannon- The Fifth Column." The Fifth Column - A Podcast and Anthony Scaramucci, 5 May. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/891723/.

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@misc{scaramucci2026_891723,
  author       = {Anthony Scaramucci},
  title        = {Anthony Scaramucci Unloads on Steve Bannon- The Fifth Column},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, The Fifth Column - A Podcast and Anthony Scaramucci. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {may},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/891723/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}