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Joseph Hogan
President, Chief Executive Officer & Director, Align Technology, Inc

Align Technology Inc ($ALGN) Q1 2026 Earnings Call

🎥 May 01, 2026 📺 Castify Earnings Call ⏱ 68m
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About Joseph Hogan

During Align Technology’s fourth quarter 2024 earnings call on January 29, 2025, President and CEO Joe Hogan discussed the company’s product portfolio and market conditions. Hogan said the company is expanding its restorative marketplace offerings for general practitioners, noting that a new system will allow GPs to perform restorative work in addition to orthodontic procedures. He stated the company plans to launch the product in March and roll it out through the second quarter. Hogan also commented on the company’s strategy regarding dental service organizations (DSOs), describing them as a “force multiplier” that can disseminate Align’s technology and brand insights more efficiently than a traditional door-to-door sales force. Regarding competition in China, Hogan said that Chinese competitors have entered the market with “unsustainable prices” and expressed confidence that pricing dynamics would eventually self-correct, as the company has observed with other competitors. He characterized the China market as “stable” in the fourth quarter.

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Transcript (103 segments)
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Operator0:00
Greetings. Welcome to the Align first quarter 2026 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Shirley Stacy with Align Technology. You may begin.
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Shirley Stacy0:23
Good afternoon and thank you for joining us. I'm Shirley Stacy, vice president of corporate communications and investor relations. Joining me for today's conference call is Joe Hogan, president and CEO, and John Morici, CFO. We issued first quarter 2026 financial results today via BusinessWire, which is available on our website at investor.aligntech.com. Today's conference call is being audio webcast and will be archived on our website for approximately one month. As a reminder, the information provided and discussed today will include forward-looking statements, including statements about Align's future events, product outlook, and financial expectations. These forward-looking statements are only predictions and involve risks and uncertainties that are described in more detail in our more recent periodic reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission available on our website and at sec.gov. Actual results may vary significantly and Align expressly assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statement. We have posted historical financial statements with corresponding reconciliations, including our GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation, if applicable, and our first quarter 2026 conference call slides on our website under quarterly results. Please refer to these files for more detailed information. With that, I'll turn the call over to Align Technology's President and CEO, Joe Hogan. Joe,
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Joseph Hogan1:38
Thanks Shirley. Good afternoon and thanks for joining us today. On today's call, I'll start with an overview of our first quarter 2026 results and discuss performance across our two operating segments, Clear Aligners and Systems and Services. John will then walk us through our financial results and outlook for Q2 and 2026. After that, I'll come back to highlight a few key takeaways before we open the call for questions. We're pleased to report another better than expected quarter in Q1. Clear aligner volumes from both a GAAP and non-GAAP operating margins exceeded our outlook. These results reflect continued execution against our strategic priorities and the resilience across our global business. We delivered first quarter revenues of $1.04 billion, up 6.2% year-over-year, driven primarily by higher clear aligner volumes and increased ASPs. Clear aligner shipments reached a record 686,000 cases, increasing 6.7% year-over-year, reflecting double-digit growth across our international businesses and continuing stability in North America. Growth was broad-based across customer channels with shipments to orthodontists up 7.4% and GPs up 5.6% year-over-year, along with solid momentum across adult, teen, and growing kid patient categories. Dental and orthodontic service organizations continue to be force multipliers in every region, driving global double-digit clear aligner volume growth during the quarter. We remain encouraged by how naturally our digital platform fits with DSO operating models and how it continues to benefit customers and patients and support both Invisalign adoption and increased iTero scanner utilization. Q1 highlights the continued strength in Invisalign demand across age groups and geographies even amid varying macro conditions.
For Q1, 449,000 adults were treated with Invisalign aligners, up 7.8% year-over-year, reflecting strong growth across both orthodontist and GP channels in all regions led by EMEA, APAC, and Latin America. Teens and growing kids continue to represent the largest orthodontic patient opportunity globally. In Q1, 237,000 teens and kids started Invisalign treatment, up 4.8% year-over-year, led by China and Latin America. Growth was supported by continued adoption of Invisalign First, the Invisalign palatal expander and mandibular advancement with occlusal blocks, reflecting broader use across growing patient indications. A clinical study by researchers at the University of Siena in Italy found that the Invisalign palatal expander, or what we call IP, was shown to effectively widen the upper jaw by opening a natural growth seam in the palate, achieving bone and bite changes similar to a traditional metal Hyrax expander. IP also delivered more controlled and predictable results than Hyrax. When further considering the greater ability to maintain hygiene and the simplicity many parents desire compared to a Hyrax device, these findings support the use of IP as a reliable option for growing patients and highlights its role as an important step toward fully digital orthodontic care.
For imaging systems and CAD/CAM services, including iTero, exocad, and X-ray insights software, Q1 revenues totaled $184 million, up 1% year-over-year and declined sequentially, reflecting expected first quarter capital equipment seasonality. Q1 Systems and Services year-over-year revenue growth reflects continued adoption of iTero Luminà, full systems, service revenues, and CPO sales, along with a continued mix shift toward lower price scanner offerings, including PC-based configurations, leasing, and rental units. These offerings provide greater affordability and flexibility to doctors in certain markets and practice models. In addition, the number of scanners sold to new doctors increased double digits year-over-year. For Q1, the total installed base of active scanners exceeded 125,000 globally. In addition, during the quarter, over 12 million iTero digital scans were performed, supporting Invisalign, restorative, wellness, and numerous other digital workflows and applications. Exocad delivered double-digit year-over-year revenue growth, reinforcing our strategy to integrate orthodontics and restorative dentistry within a customer and patient-centric digital platform.
Following the success of our inaugural Invisalign Advanced Restorative Treatment, or ART, pilot in EMEA, we recently began an Invisalign ART pilot in the United States with labs and doctors beginning training in several markets. Invisalign ART integrates with Exocad, enabling clinicians and labs to plan tooth alignment ahead of restorative work within the Exocad environment without changing the tools doctors and labs already use. We are very excited about this opportunity to enhance the goal of preserving patients' natural dentition as much as possible. ART allows us to do this by incorporating the prior alignment of teeth into the overall restorative treatment plan, as opposed to the removal or grinding them down before minimally invasive restorative work, and allows us to further expand our reach and offer existing and new products to the large and growing restorative market through lab-based channels.
Clear aligner revenue in Q1 was $856 million, increasing 7.4% year-over-year and 2.1% sequentially. Q1 clear aligner volume reached a record 686,000 cases, up 6.7% year-over-year and 1.3% sequentially. On a year-over-year basis, our clear aligner revenues reflected double-digit volume growth in EMEA, APAC, and Latin America, along with overall stability in North America. Importantly, growth was primarily driven by both submitter expansion and higher utilization across the orthodontist and GP channels and across adult, teen, and growing kid categories. During the quarter, more than 88,000 doctors submitted Invisalign cases globally, a year-over-year increase of 3%, or an additional 3,000 orthodontists and GPs, driven primarily by increases in APAC and the Americas led by Latin America. Doctor utilization also increased year-over-year by 3.4%, led by EMEA, Latin America, and APAC. These metrics illustrate the continued adoption and penetration of the Invisalign system through our strategic geographic growth efforts as well as the meaningful addition opportunities and the large untapped demand for digital orthodontics, both in gaining share in the existing 22 million annual orthodontic case starts and expanding access to care to the more than 600 million potential patients that our digital technology can serve through GP dentists globally.
Our DSO channel continued to be a meaningful growth driver. In Q1, DSO clear aligner volumes grew double digits across all regions and represented approximately a quarter of total global volumes. The retail channel continued to be mixed, particularly in the United States where our doctor customers reported less patient traffic during the quarter. To drive adoption and utilization across channels, we expect to continue expanding targeted initiatives focused on affordability, patient conversion, clinical confidence, and practice efficiency. These initiatives are beginning to show traction with GPs, dentists, orthodontists, and DSOs, helping to drive increased engagement and directional growth in case volumes.
These initiatives include the Doctor Subscription Program, or DSP. We continue to see strong growth from our DSP program, which includes retention and touch-up or relapse cases. DSP touch-up cases continue to grow double digits year-over-year across regions. DSP was originally launched in the United States in 2023, expanded into EMEA in 2025, and is expected to launch in APAC in Q2 of this year. North America DSP is also supporting early momentum with orthodontic groups and DSOs, helping drive re-engagement among competitive and historically lower utilizing doctors as pricing simplicity and bundled value resonate across accounts.
Patient financing in the United States. Healthcare Finance Direct, or HFD, is now live in over 4,000 offices, enabling patients to pre-qualify for financing before their first appointment, allowing doctors to see these patients directly within our Invisalign Doctor Site. We saw particularly strong adoption in Q1 among the American Academy of Clear Aligners, or AACA, member practices where expanded access to patient financing is helping improve affordability, increase patient conversion, and drive meaningful directional growth in case starts. Beyond AACA, adoption continues to expand across independent practices, multi-site groups, and DSOs. Practices report that HFD simplifies the front office workflows, reduces complexity in payment discussions, and increases staff confidence when offering financing during consultations and special patient events. Pre-qualification and flexible monthly payment options are helping practices broaden access to care. In many cases, providing affordable options to patients to increase scope and types of treatment, including Invisalign clear aligners. Feedback we've received from offices highlights that the speed of approvals, clarity of options, and prompt funding are shifting conversations away from price and back toward delivering treatment options that match patient needs while also easing administrative burdens for staff and operating teams. These benefits are proving particularly impactful in multi-practice environments where consistency, simplicity, and scalability are critical.
Invisalign Pay, which is available in Brazil with further expansion planned across Latin America, continues to improve affordability and treatment conversion and serves as a proof point for how patient-centric embedded financing can complement our clinical and digital workflows. In Brazil, Invisalign Pay is now used in a majority of Invisalign cases, reflecting strong doctor endorsement and patient adoption. Providers report that financing helps optimize cash flow, reduce friction for patients, and supports reactivation of lower utilizing providers, reinforcing financing as a meaningful lever for sustained growth across the region.
Peer-to-peer mentoring. The clinician-to-clinician mentoring programs connect doctors over a structured 12-month period to build clinical confidence and drive engagement and treatment conversion. These programs are especially effective for accelerating adoption of new technologies, increasing confidence treating kids, teens, and more complex cases. Peer-to-peer programs are active across all regions, and we expect to expand them over the year. These efforts complement our broader engagement strategy, particularly with GPs and competitive orthodontic accounts that benefit from hands-on clinical support and shared best practices.
Treatment Planning Services, or TPS. TPS addresses one of the largest barriers to adoption: low clinical confidence and uncertainty around treatment planning, particularly among GP dentists. TPS provides case assessment and treatment planning support through a combination of internal TPS and external TPS partners, enabling doctors to submit cases with confidence. TPS has emerged as a direct go-to-market engine with materially higher utilization among TPS users versus non-users and strong adoption across regions. In markets such as Canada, TPS adoption among participating GPs continues to increase, with TPS users consistently outperforming non-users and contributing to low double-digit year-over-year growth in case starts.
From a regional standpoint, Americas Q1 clear aligner volumes increased year-over-year, reflecting very strong double-digit growth in Latin America, partially offset by a modest but stable year-over-year decline in North America. Latin America delivered record first quarter shipments driven by increased submitters, higher utilization across both orthodontist and GP channels, along with strength across adult, teen, and growing kid categories. In EMEA, Q1 clear aligner volumes grew double digits year-over-year, reaching record first quarter levels led by increases in Iberia, Italy, Nordics, UK, and also Turkey. Growth was driven primarily by utilization gains across both GP and orthodontic channels and continued strength from adult and growing kids patients. In APAC, Q1 clear aligner volumes also grew double digits year-over-year with record first quarter shipments for APAC led by China, India, Korea, and Japan. In addition, eight APAC markets had record first quarters including China, Japan, Korea, India, and Taiwan. Growth was broad-based with teen and growing kid patients growing double digits alongside continued growth among adult patients. Overall, while the operating environment remains uneven in some markets, our Q1 results illustrate the resilience of our global business, and we continue to see orthodontics, oral health, and digital dentistry as durable long-term growth categories. With that, I'll turn it over to John.
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John Morici15:02
Thanks, Joe. Now, for our Q1 financial results, total revenues for the first quarter were $1.041 billion, up 6.2% from the corresponding quarter a year ago. On a constant currency basis, Q1 revenues were favorably impacted by approximately $44.9 million year-over-year, or approximately 4.5%, in line with our Q1 expectations. Q1 clear aligner revenues were $856 million, up 7.4% year-over-year, primarily due to higher volume, favorable foreign exchange, price increases, and lower net deferrals, partially offset by higher discounts and a mix shift to lower price countries and products. Favorable foreign exchange impacted Q1 clear aligner revenues by approximately $38.2 million, or approximately 4.7% year-over-year. Q1 clear aligner average per case shipment price of $1,250 increased 1%, or $10 per case, on a year-over-year basis, primarily due to favorable foreign exchange, price increases, and lower net deferrals, partially offset by higher discounts and mix shift to lower price countries and products mentioned previously.
Clear aligner deferred revenues on the balance sheet as of March 31, 2026, decreased $77.2 million, or 6.4% year-over-year, and will be recognized as revenue as additional aligners, also known as refinements, are shipped. As we continue to scale our zero additional aligner configuration and introduce other streamlined configurations with limited or no additional aligners, which do not require revenue deferral because there are no future performance obligations, we expect the overall clear aligner deferred revenue balance to decrease over time. This reflects earlier revenue recognition and cash conversion rather than any changes in pre-cash flow economics.
Q1 Systems and Services revenues of $184.1 million were up 0.9% year-over-year, primarily due to favorable foreign exchange, higher scanner systems and sales, and non-system sales, partially offset by lower scanner wand sales. Foreign exchange favorably impacted Q1 Systems and Services revenues by approximately $6.7 million year-over-year, or approximately 3.8%. Systems and Services deferred revenues decreased $22.4 million, or 10.8% year-over-year, due in part to the shorter duration of service contracts selected by customers on initial scanner system purchases.
Moving on to gross margin. First quarter overall gross margin was 70.8%, up 1.4 points year-over-year, primarily due to operational efficiencies and higher clear aligner ASP. Q1 overall gross margin was unfavorably impacted by foreign exchange of 0.4 points year-over-year. On a non-GAAP basis, which excludes stock-based compensation, amortization of intangibles related to certain acquisitions, depreciation expense on assets disposed of other than by sale, gain on assets held for sale, and restructuring and other non-GAAP charges, gross margin for the first quarter was 71.8%, up 1.6 points year-over-year. Clear aligner gross margin for the first quarter was 71.6%, up 1.1 points year-over-year, primarily due to higher ASP and operational efficiencies. Q1 clear aligner gross margin was impacted by unfavorable foreign exchange of approximately 0.5 points year-over-year.
Beyond mix and cost actions, margin expansion is increasingly driven by lower refinement rates, improved treatment predictability, and higher manufacturing throughput, benefits that scale with volume and data over time. Many of our lower price product configurations, such as Comprehensive Lite and DSP touch-up, include fewer or no additional aligners and require less manufacturing production, which supports gross margins and improves cash conversion despite lower upfront pricing. Because of the clinical capability of the Invisalign system, we are able to offer configurations such as Zero A products that give doctors the ability to use and scale with the Invisalign system and deliver on patient expectations and enable us to more effectively compete with traditional wires and brackets and clear aligner suppliers that we believe primarily compete based on price. Over a year ago, we expanded the Invisalign portfolio to include a Comprehensive Lite configuration, primarily with US DSOs, that began piloting in the retail channel in Q1. It is still early, but given results from DSO partners showing Comprehensive Lite drives adoption by supporting improved efficiency, utilization, and overall practice economics for doctors, we see interest and momentum building around this offering and anticipate expanding it over the year.
Systems and Services gross margin for the first quarter was 67.2%, up 2.5 points year-over-year, primarily due to operational efficiencies, partially offset by lower ASP. On a year-over-year basis, foreign exchange had no significant impact on Q1 Systems and Services gross margin. Q1 operating expenses were $594.6 million, up 8.3% year-over-year. Year-over-year, operating expenses increased by $45.6 million, primarily due to legal settlement costs and higher employee compensation. On a non-GAAP basis, excluding stock-based compensation, restructuring and other charges, amortization of acquired intangibles related to certain acquisitions, and legal settlement costs, Q1 non-GAAP operating expenses were $523.1 million, up 4.5% year-over-year.
Our first quarter operating income of $142 million resulted in an operating margin of 13.6%, up approximately 0.3 points year-over-year. Operating margin was unfavorably impacted from foreign exchange by approximately 0.1 points year-over-year. On a non-GAAP basis, which excludes stock-based compensation, restructuring and other non-GAAP charges, amortization of acquired intangibles related to certain acquisitions, legal settlement costs, gain on assets held for sale, and depreciation of assets disposed of other than by sale, operating margin for the first quarter was 21.5%, up 2.5 points year-over-year.
The Q1 GAAP effective tax rate was 24.3% compared to 33.6% in the first quarter of 2025. The first quarter GAAP effective tax rate was lower than the first quarter effective tax rate of the prior year primarily due to a change in our jurisdictional mix of income, lower tax expense related to uncertain tax provisions, lower tax expense recognized related to stock-based compensation, and a decrease in US taxes on foreign earnings. Our Q1 2026 non-GAAP effective tax rate was 20%, which reflects our long-term projected tax rate. First quarter net income per diluted share was $1.57, up 31% compared to the prior year. Our EPS was favorably impacted by 1 cent on a year-over-year basis due to foreign exchange. On a non-GAAP basis, net income per diluted share was $2.58 for the first quarter, up 21% year-over-year.
Moving on to the balance sheet, as of March 31, 2026, cash and cash equivalents were $1.060 billion, up $186.8 million year-over-year. Of the $1.060 billion balance, $206.6 million was held in the US and $853.2 million was held by our international entities. Align maintains a disciplined capital return program. In August 2025, we announced our intention to repurchase $200 million of our common stock under our previously authorized $1 billion stock repurchase program from April 2025. Between August 2025 and January 2026, we repurchased approximately 1.4 million shares at an average price per share of $143.85, completing the $200 million repurchase plan. As of March 31, 2026, $800 million remains available for repurchase of common stock under our repurchase program. Today, we announced that we expect to repurchase up to an additional $200 million of our common stock over a six-month period beginning on or about May 1, 2026. We believe this action reflects our conviction that Align shares remain attractively valued, supported by improving underlying business fundamentals.
Q1 accounts receivable balance was $1.125 billion. Our overall day sales outstanding was 97 days, flat as compared to Q1 of 2025. Cash flow from operations for the first quarter was $151 million. Capital expenditures for the first quarter were $30.8 million, primarily related to investments in our manufacturing capacity and facilities. Free cash flow, defined as cash flow from operations minus capital expenditures, amounted to $120.3 million. Our financial priorities are centered on disciplined execution and long-term value creation. Through restructuring actions and ongoing efficiency initiatives, we believe we are strengthening Align's cost structure and positioning the business for improved operating leverage as we grow returns. We remain focused on managing input cost pressures, investing for long-term returns, and maintaining balance sheet flexibility to support sustainable margin expansion over time. We also continue to return capital to shareholders in Q1 through disciplined share repurchases supported by our strong balance sheet and cash flow generation.
With Q1 2026 results as a backdrop, we remain focused on executing our strategic growth initiatives and building on the recent quarterly results. At the same time, there is uncertainty and the potential for adverse impacts on patient traffic, consumer demand, and shipping and freight resulting from ongoing military action in the Middle East. With respect to the Middle East, we continue to monitor developments closely. While our doctor customers in MEA have noted some impact on patient traffic and conversion, the overall effect on our MEA results was immaterial in the first quarter. Given the ongoing uncertainty, we have taken a prudent approach in our second quarter outlook by assuming some impact on both clear aligner and scanner demand. Beyond the second quarter, it becomes increasingly difficult to predict how the conflict in the Middle East will affect our business, particularly in the event of further escalation, sustained constraints on oil and gas supplies, or broader softening in consumer and patient sentiment.
As we look to Q2 and the remainder of 2026, assuming no circumstances occur beyond our control, such as additional ramifications as a result of the aforementioned military action in the Middle East beyond what we have already assumed, adverse foreign exchange fluctuation, changes to currently applicable duties, including tariffs, or other fees that could impact our business, our outlook is as follows. We expect Q2 2026 worldwide revenues to be in the range of $1.040 billion to $1.060 billion, up approximately 3% to 5% year-over-year. We expect Q2 2026 clear aligner volume to be up sequentially and year-over-year, and clear aligner average selling price to be flat sequentially and year-over-year. We expect Systems and Services revenues to be up sequentially. We expect our Q2 2026 GAAP operating margin to be approximately 16.4% and non-GAAP operating margin to be approximately 21.5%.
For fiscal 2026, we remain confident in our outlook that we provided previously and reaffirm our full-year fiscal 2026 guidance as follows. We expect 2026 worldwide revenue growth to be up 3% to 4% year-over-year. Our full-year 2026 revenue guidance continues to assume a benefit from foreign exchange that is consistent with the assumptions underlying our initial full-year outlook. We expect the impact of foreign exchange to moderate in remaining quarters, trending toward the full-year assumption of approximately 100 basis points. We expect 2026 clear aligner volume growth to be up mid-single digits year-over-year. We expect 2026 GAAP operating margin to be slightly below 18%, an approximately 400 basis point improvement over 2025, and non-GAAP operating margin to be approximately 23.7%, a 100 basis point improvement year-over-year, consistent with our previous guidance. We expect our investments in capital expenditures for fiscal 2026 to be $125 million to $150 million. Capital expenditures primarily relate to technology upgrades, additional manufacturing capacity, as well as maintenance.
As we consider our full-year 2026 guidance, we want to be clear about our approach. While we are encouraged by our first quarter performance and the outlook for the second quarter, we are maintaining a prudent stance with respect to the full year. The macroeconomic environment remains uncertain and we believe it's appropriate to maintain the guidance framework established at the beginning of the year. We remain focused on disciplined execution in a dynamic environment and we will provide updates as visibility improves over the course of the year. As mentioned, we expect to repurchase an additional $200 million of our common stock over a six-month period commencing on or about May 1. With that, now I'll turn it back to Joe for final comments. Joe,
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Joseph Hogan30:29
Thanks John. Stepping back, we're pleased with our Q1 performance and consistency of execution we're seeing across the business. Growth this quarter was broad-based across region, patient segments, and channels, supported by record submitters for our first quarter and a higher utilization within our existing customer base. We also continue to see strong momentum from our doctor subscription program with Invisalign touch-up and retention products growing double digits year-over-year. We continue to observe the dental needs we address, such as orthodontics, restorative, diagnostics, oral health, and digital dentistry, and durable consumer demand, which we expect will continue to drive our long-term growth expectations. Importantly, teens and growing kids remain a central driver of Invisalign demand and long-term opportunity. In Q1, we saw continued strength in teens and kids across key international markets, supported by adoption of Invisalign First, palatal expansion, and mandibular advancement. These products are helping doctors treat a broader range of growing patients with Invisalign aligners and allowing us to compete more effectively against traditional wires and braces at earlier stages of treatment.
We have moved forward in 2026. Our focus is on maintaining discipline as we invest strategically in innovation and growth opportunities. That includes advancing digital dentistry through the Align Digital Platform, scaling our iTero Luminà ecosystem, expanding internationally with localized strategies, and continuing to build a differentiated portfolio for teens and growing kids. While macroeconomic conditions remain dynamic, we continue to benefit from long-term investments in AI-enabled treatment planning and integrated digital workflows that improve predictability, efficiency, and scalability across the business. These capabilities are designed to increase planning consistency and throughput and support more predictable outcomes for doctors, helping us operate more efficiently across volume environments.
A key part of our strategy is expanding the role Align plays in oral health and restorative dentistry. Increasingly, doctors are using our platform not just to align teeth but to identify oral health issues earlier and integrate orthodontics into comprehensive treatment plans. By connecting Exocad and Invisalign through digital workflows, we're helping doctors deliver better long-term oral health care outcomes for patients, especially as they transition from orthodontic to restorative care. Our vision is to make tooth alignment using clear aligner therapy the standard of care by revolutionizing traditional treatment modalities, appliances, tools, practice workflows, and business and go-to-market models across the dental industry. By focusing on oral health and the benefits of tooth alignment as part of orthodontic and restorative treatment, we're developing products and technologies that are helping doctors deliver the best treatment experiences and clinical outcomes for their patients. To date, nearly 23 million patients worldwide have been treated with the Invisalign system, including approximately 7 million teens and kids. Every case adds to our proprietary clinical data set generated within our integrated digital platform. This data set continues to fuel our innovation and ability to scale across orthodontics, oral health, and change lives for our doctors, customers, and their patients.
Innovation remains central to our strategy, but always with a clear purpose: helping doctors deliver better outcomes, improving efficiency, and enhancing the patient experience. Looking forward, that includes continued progress in direct fabrication, which we are advancing deliberately and in phases with quality and reliability as our guiding principles. While still early, direct printing unlocks new design flexibility, strengthens our long-term cost structure, and allows us to operate more cost-effectively. We began initial limited market releases of direct 3D printed attachments and retainer products in Q1 and look forward to updating you further as direct printing programs progress. Our objectives are straightforward: to keep earning trust through clinical leadership, thoughtful innovation, and consistent execution quarter after quarter. With that, I thank you for your time today. And now I'll turn over to the operator.
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Operator34:45
Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 11 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Daniel Grossi with Citi. Your line is open.
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Daniel Grossi35:29
Hi guys, thanks for taking the question. Hi, congrats on another strong quarter here. Wanted to focus on the cadence of profitability for the remainder of the year. Obviously, a very strong beat this quarter. 2Q looks about flattish sequentially, which implies a fairly significant step up in the second half. Can you just comment on the underlying assumptions for the cadence of profitability this year particularly? I know there's a lot of uncertainty around the Middle East, but how much impact around the conflict are you assuming in 2Q and kind of what are the assumptions around the second half?
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John Morici36:08
Yeah, Daniel, this is John. We're pleased with our profitability and what we saw in the first quarter. It's really a reflection of what we've been able to do as a lot of the restructuring and other changes that we made last year, both from a COGS standpoint and OpEx standpoint, really starting to take hold in the first quarter. So we're pleased with that. We expect that profitability and the productivity to continue as we go through the year. That's typically the cadence that we have as we go quarter over quarter. We see that profitability, and especially as volume increases as well, we see that profitability come through as well. So good start to the year and we look forward to the rest of the year playing out as expected.
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Operator36:54
Thank you. Our next question comes from Glenn Santangelo with Barclays. Your line is open.
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Glenn Santangelo37:05
Oh, yeah. Thanks for taking my questions. Just two quick ones for me. Hey Joe, I want to touch on this Middle East situation. I know you guys don't break it out specifically, but we sort of place it in the mid to high single-digit range with respect to revenues. Can you confirm, is that in the right zip code? And I'm just kind of curious if there's been any impact on the iTero manufacturing facility there and if you have any insights on how that business trended in April because I think that'd be helpful for us assessing the balance of the year. And then I just have a follow-up on share purchase. It's kind of interesting to me that you completed the 200 million in January and you said you're going to start on the next 200 million over the next six months, but I'm kind of curious given the transient nature of the conflict, like why wouldn't it make more sense to kind of lean in here more heavily through that 800 million in one Q for example, given you have over a billion dollars in cash on the balance sheet. And so any thoughts on the timing of your share purchases would be helpful. Thanks so much.
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John Morici38:12
Yeah, Glenn, I can start with answering some of these questions. This is John. On Middle East, you're right. The Middle East part of our numbers to the company is in the single digits. And so there's some impact that we saw, but it was pretty minimal in March. And our reflection is in the second quarter and kind of beyond based on that. And in terms of iTero, Joe, you want to...
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Joseph Hogan38:37
On the iTero side, you know, Glenn, honestly, we didn't have any disruption from a production or shipment standpoint. That team is very rigorous over there. We understand when to move equipment well and whatever. And so, I'm not saying that's always perfect, but the team has responded well, and we didn't have any really impact on the business in the first quarter. And then on the share repurchase, you're right, we saw the 200 million that we just completed and now an additional 200 million. Remember, it comes down to US cash and you know about 20% of our cash is in the US versus out of the US. So we have that constrained as well. But it's part of our overall plan that we have. We want to grow the business as fast as we can, use our cash to be able to help do that. We have a good business model that generates a lot of cash. You saw that reflection in the first quarter and then we do the buybacks to be able to put cash back to our shareholders. So, that's been the plan that we have and it's a disciplined approach that we've taken and we've seen that investments made back into business that way.
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Operator39:44
Okay. Thank you.
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John Morici39:46
Thanks, Glenn.
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Operator39:49
Thank you. Our next question comes from Brandon Vasquez with William Blair. Your line is open.
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Brandon Vasquez39:56
Hi everyone. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on a good quarter here in uncertain macro. I want to follow on the Middle East question, but actually not like the specific exposure to the Middle East, but you guys have kind of called out some prudence around the guidance just for the uncertainty around the Middle East situation. I assume you guys are talking about potential impacts to consumers, things like that. Maybe just talk us through what are the potential risks, what is the prudence that's being baked into the guidance just so we understand if we do have a prolonged situation in Middle East, what's the wiggle room within guidance and where you guys would expect across the P&L there could be an impact, right? Could it be in revenue? And then maybe the other one I'll ask on margins related to this is like are you guys exposed to rising costs that we keep seeing headlines about rising from the Middle East. Thanks.
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John Morici40:51
Yeah, Brandon, this is John. So there's a minimal direct impact. Like I said, the Middle East part of our business is actually relatively small in the single digits as a comparison to the rest of the business. It's really just the higher fuel prices that you see that every country is seeing now as a result of this and what it means for their inflation and what they have to be able to purchase other products including ours. We've done a lot to be able to help drive the conversion. So much of what we talked about was helping potential patients with financing and helping doctors to be able to provide financing and so on. And we'll continue those efforts, but it's really more around something that's prolonged with higher inflation and higher share of wallet that goes other places that puts us from a forecast standpoint just trying to be as prudent as possible.
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Operator41:51
Yep. Next question, please.
Thank you. Our next question comes from John Block with Stifel. Your line is open.
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John Block41:58
Hey guys, good afternoon. Maybe I'll break them up, but just on the first one, you know, Joe...
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Joseph Hogan42:05
John, hey John, you sound really low. Can you speak up? Okay, that's better.
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John Block42:10
Is that better? All right. Sorry about that. Two questions. I'll try to break them up and I'll yell on top of that. So, I was saying, you know, Joe, trends are always really important, but certainly top of mind with investors with the current state of the globe and what's going on. So I'm wondering if you can give us any color just on how things trended or closed in the first quarter, call it more the month of March, and then any early 2Q trends to call out for the first month that you experienced in the month of April.
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Joseph Hogan42:45
Hey John. Look, I mean, overall when I look at the quarter, I look at it globally and all, it was pretty consistent across the board when we look month-to-month. Obviously it is kind of backend loaded obviously in the way capital equipment purchases go, but when we looked at Invisalign, we felt good about Invisalign all country and country and the consistency of what we saw. So, and though I would say overall pockets of weakness that was different than what we experienced in the fourth quarter. So overall, I felt good about that, and we felt good is how we entered the second quarter, too. So John, anything to add?
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John Morici43:19
No, I mean there's going to be puts and takes as you go through any quarter, but on balance we kind of take a balanced view of that from a guidance standpoint and reflect that. Yeah.
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John Block43:31
Okay. And John, maybe the second one, hopefully you can hear me. Okay, just to follow up. So you mentioned zero refinement or no AA and it seems like that rollout's going to broaden. You talked about seeing some good proof points with some of the accounts that had it like notably the DSO. So what's the assumption in 2026 guidance? Have you built out any incremental contribution from zero refinement as that rolls out more broadly for the balance of the year? And the tack on to that, but certainly related is in the wording on the 2Q guidance. You mentioned prudence due to what's going on in the Middle East for 2Q. To be clear, have you seen it yet as in the month of April or are you building that in case it's on the come? Thanks for your time.
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John Morici44:19
Yeah, so on when we see the zero refinement, it's really not in a big way in our forecast for the year. So, we're very pleased with what's happening and how this roll out happens. Again, doctors have to get comfortable with these products. They want to see results for themselves. They want to get that clinical confidence so that they can increase adoption. So, it's a roll out. But what we do see is doctors started to utilize it more and more. So, we're pleased with that, but we're not expecting much just because of the time nature of the roll out for this year. And then when we look at the overall that we see, we're pleased with that. And I think from a guidance standpoint, we've been able to see the puts and takes of the first quarter and you factor that into April and that's what's gone into our guidance. So, I would say, it's a balanced view of all those puts and takes. I wouldn't say it's overly cautious. It's just a reflective of what we expect and from a guidance standpoint for Q2 and then the reflection of maintaining our overall for the year.
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John Block45:34
Perfect. Thanks, guys.
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John Morici45:35
Yeah. Thanks, John.
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Operator45:39
Thank you. Our next question comes from Elizabeth Anderson with Evercore ISI. Your line is open.
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Elizabeth Anderson45:46
Hi guys. Good afternoon and thanks so much for the question. Maybe a two-parter from me. One, can you go into a little bit more detail about your sort of like change in ASP view? It just seems a little bit more positive than what you're saying. So just wanted to parse through that in a little bit more detail in terms of like mix or FX and that kind of thing. And then two, as you think about the margin opportunities in 2026, do you see any changes in those buckets versus sort of what you were thinking about later last year? Are there any incremental opportunities? Any more details on that would also be helpful. Thank you.
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John Morici46:21
So Elizabeth on the ASP, you're right, there are moving pieces certainly with that. We called out foreign exchange and we talk a lot about country mix and product mix and certainly those play through our ASPs but on an overall basis when we look year it's a $10 increase which was good, it was as expected and even on a quarter-over-quarter basis $10 and that's kind of how when we look forward you're still going to have that country mix product mix but a lot of times things are offsetting and we see that as a result. So ASPs stable. It is when we see some of those lower stage products like we talked about with the no AA or some of the moderate products they come at a higher gross margin and we see that coming through and first quarter is a good example of that. As you increase your NOA products, as you increase your moderates with NOA, the cost of service is just less and we end up with being able to see improvements in gross margin. So, as we go through the year, we should expect to see that in terms of our product mix improvements in gross margin. We should continue to see productivity. We made a lot of cost actions at the end of last year. We're seeing good effects of those cost changes whether it's getting closer to our customers, in some cases it's just equipment that's more efficient drives productivity and certainly as we have more volume we get that leverage as we go through. So that's how we expect things to play out this year and so far in the first quarter was a good start.
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Operator47:58
Next question please.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Jeff Johnson with Baird. Your line is open.
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Jeff Johnson48:06
Hey guy. Hey Joe. Good afternoon everyone. So Joe I wanted to start maybe two questions but let me start just on kind of your North American case growth. I think you mentioned it was down a little bit year-over-year. Every other market I think up double digits although correct me if I'm wrong on the every other market comment part of that. But what do you think the difference is in the US or North America versus rest of world? Is it just all consumer? Is it competition? What is driving such a stark contrast? I know that's not really different over the last several quarters or handful of quarters. But just what's your updated thought on how we get that kind of North American number back to something that can be contributing at least to the double digit elsewhere?
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Joseph Hogan48:50
Yeah, that's a good question, Jeff. You know, first of all, I'd say the competition aspect hasn't changed. And just to take off on John's question a second ago, you know that no AA allows us to play offense out there and we're playing more offense in that sense and we feel good about it overall. I'd say, broadly I was actually anticipating this question, Jeff, is it's broadly a macro the way I look at it versus here in the rest of the world. And it's almost like you'd put the macro in Asia being the best. Secondly, and Europe's spotty. Europe's a lot of different countries but you can see that the countries we highlighted like Iberia, UK and different parts of Asia is growing pretty well and then when you look at the Americas which includes Latin America did extremely well, we're seeing some improvement in Canada right now and some improvement in the US so overall I feel good overall but that variable you're looking for Jeff has been US macro as far as I can tell.
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Jeff Johnson49:45
All right fair enough and then maybe just a two-parter on no AA. One, I think last quarter you had talked about going into 2Q being pretty complete with the roll out of zero AA across most markets. It sounds like maybe that has a little extended launch timeline now. Just wondering if anything has changed there. And then on some of the LMR, the limited market release you did of NOA last year, any early evidence of whether these docs who are using NOA are still doing one or two refinements in an all-at-once way? Are they using DSP to pay for it? Just how to think about kind of years, 6 months through year two of those NOA cases, do additional revenues come in over time or not on that product. Thanks.
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John Morici50:34
Yeah, John, what do you see on...
So on the NOA, when we look at it's being available to many doctors, it's just a question of do doctors want to utilize it and start to utilize it right away. So there's a roll out based on the doctor's preference in terms of how much they want to utilize and that ramps up and in success when doctors start to see the benefits of it, their clinical confidence and that they can treat patients even on complicated cases with no refinements or maybe one refinement then they continue to do more and more and that's what we've seen in our data as we've gone and now as it's been out for over a year in many markets. Now you see doctors saying, 'Okay, they need to purchase a refinement or they might have something that they need to add to the case to make sure it can finish properly.' And you start to see some of the refinements come later. So that was our expectation when we started this that there would be an adoption and those doctors then start to use it. They want to see what refinements they need and now we're starting to see some refinements, but it really helps doctors be able to keep that initial case cost lower for them so that they can fit that into their practice and see those patients as they would want. So good adoption that we've seen across the globe. You're starting to see refinements come in, but it's pretty much as expected. We just want to keep rolling this out and getting doctors more and more options.
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Joseph Hogan52:05
You know, Jeff, I think it's just to add something what John said. I think one is over the years the doctors have gotten more and more confidence in our product lines. I talked about TPS and my scripts and different things we do to train doctors and I think it gives a much more confidence to go out there with no AA. Secondly is it aligns doctor's economics along with our economics too and so it helps to bring the two of us together in a much better way.
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Jeff Johnson52:28
Understood. Thank you.
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John Morici52:30
Thanks Jeff. Next question.
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Operator52:32
Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Churney with Leerink Partners. Your line is open.
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Michael Churney52:42
Good evening. Thanks for taking the question. I know we've been talking a lot about macro. Obviously, not something you can control, but you can control some of the reaction to macro. So, as we sit here wondering what's going to happen with the Middle East, I appreciate all the color in terms of what's baked into the guidance on the top line as well as the COGS side. How are you thinking about the OpEx spend and the push and pull to make sure that the appropriate level of demand is being stimulated and especially in a world where you do have a broader product portfolio? Is there any color you can give us in terms of the scenario analysis that could lead to ongoing margin upside?
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John Morici53:18
So Michael, this is John. So we're constantly looking at understanding the macro and then our investments into that macro. And it's not one size fits all. Some countries there's maybe not as much awareness and we're at different points in the overall journey of Invisalign there you make different investments compared to maybe the bigger markets like you see within the US but we're very attuned to making changes and being able to reflect what's working and what might not be working what macro is happening in certain markets versus not and we'll make adjustments to that ultimately wanting to get the best return on investment. And when we take that approach, we can manage that in the short term to be able to hit the expectations we have. Then of course, we want to be able to drive the category and grow and that's something that we make maybe on a more longer term basis, but we're really looking at what's happening kind of market by market and even within the market, whether you advertise at the high level or more at the customer level. And we're making those trade-offs and doing this active conversion that we've talked about to really help doctors.
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Operator54:31
Thanks.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Jason Bedner with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
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Jason Bedner54:42
Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Nice start to the year here. Wanted to follow up I think on Jeff's question earlier on, focusing on here on the US. Good to see a lot of the record quarters in the international side. The US market seems like maybe it's had some green shoots at least in some of the data that we look at maybe more focused on the orthodontic channel. Is that consistent with what you're seeing too? I just sorry if I missed it. Are you seeing any differences in your business when you look across that teen focused US ortho channel relative to more the retail adult-oriented US GP segment?
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Joseph Hogan55:20
You know, I just deciphering your question Jason I'd say when you look at like a DSO approach versus a retail approach we obviously get a broader signal on a DSO because we're looking at a lot more patients and doctors and the DSOs traditionally have really good skills to go out and recruit, finance in different areas. On the retail doctor side, when I talked about HFD and those different things those are types of systems that we're bringing together that to address things that we feel hurt our retail doctors at times and inability to be able to finance or to make quick decisions and financing with patients in different areas. How we go about that as a business overall. So, I'd say the macro is there, but I feel good about what we've been offering from a product standpoint. We do from a financing standpoint and delivering it from a, we changed our organization to move to call on both orthodontists and GPs going forward. That's given us more coverage out there to be able to deliver this kind of message and support to our doctors, too.
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Jason Bedner56:21
All right. Got it. And just as a follow-up, shifting over to different side of the globe, China to us is a bit of a surprise, a good surprise, double digit growth, record first quarter you referenced. Are you comfortable saying demand is returning to normal across China? And can you remind us what's embedded in your full-year guide for China volumes and revenue this year?
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Joseph Hogan56:43
I think anybody in business has to be careful of using the word normal in China. Okay. It's just I think you take that business almost on a year-to-year sometimes quarter-to-quarter basis. We have a great team there, Jason. They execute well. Junho that ran that business has been moved and he runs all of Asia right now. We have a great team there that helps to drive that. It's a very dynamic marketplace. We're well positioned with our manufacturing, well positioned with what we offer over there. But I would never say it's always business as usual in China. It's the most competitive market in the world.
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Jason Bedner57:18
All right. Thank you.
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Operator57:22
Thank you. Our next question comes from Stephen Velicette with Mizu Securities. Your line is open.
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Stephen Velicette57:30
Yeah, thanks. Good afternoon. Yeah, everybody. This question has been I guess sort of half-asked so far, but just want to get a little more color around this 2Q guidance. It seems probably stronger than probably most people were expecting, which is certainly positive, but as far as just kind of the geographic mix across that, should we assume generally the same trends, stronger in international than maybe America's a little more you I guess you're characterizing as stable in particular. And also I think for just North America in particular you last year you talked about this ratio of patients getting scans versus patients starting treatment kind of being off a little bit. Have you been able to at least kind of close the gap on that across a lot of geographies especially on the back of some of the patient financing programs you have in place? Thanks.
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John Morici58:21
Yes, Steve. When we think about Q2, I think the growth that we've seen is pretty consistent or our expectation is pretty consistent to what we've seen. We would expect international to grow faster for many of the reasons that we spoke about. We've seen that for a number of quarters now compared to North America. So that would be our expectation for Q2. And I would say just on the conversion piece of it that dislocation we saw in the second quarter of last year and some of that as it played out went through the quarter we saw that dislocation it really has more or less returned to normal really since that second quarter. So we haven't seen some of that dislocation as we've gone through which is good. We want to be able to drive our volume, get with more and more sell to more and more doctors and increase the utilization. And we want that conversion to be as active as possible. We're trying to make that happen and therefore more as predictable as possible and we've been able to see that and the expectation is it continues.
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Stephen Velicette59:27
Okay, that's perfect. Thanks.
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John Morici59:30
Thanks, Steve.
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Operator59:33
Thank you. Our next question comes from Aaron Wright with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
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Aaron Wright59:38
Great. Thanks. Another question on sort of the North America US market, but what are you seeing in terms of the gauge data like when it comes to the broader growth trends and then what you're seeing in terms of growth across brackets and wires versus clear liners in the market? Just more broadly. And then a follow-up on zero or no AA. I guess when could this move the needle for you? It sounds like you're not expecting much this year or maybe you're just leaving that for upside in the guide, but I guess can you remind us the economics for you and can you quantify also that relative margin profile for the offering? Thanks.
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John Morici1:00:14
Maybe I could start with the AA or the zero product zero AA product. It continues to ramp as we said. It started more in the DSO side. Now it's getting more and more retail doctors and we'll play that out. Look, as that adoption happens and it drives incremental cases, that would be upside compared to what we've expected for the year because again, it's a slow gradual adoption. And if doctors adopt faster and that's what they want to use, then great. And then in terms of the revenue recognition, we don't have to defer revenue on that. So, it's basically revenue neutral kind of in that current period. Of course, there's additional refinements that come later that we'll get that revenue as that comes later. But, you know, when we think of those lower or no AA products, the gross margin is excellent for us. It's accretive for us as a business, we're starting to see that in more and more of our results. If you look back the last couple quarters, including this first quarter, you start to see some of the benefits in there. And it's very efficient for us because it's one set of treatment planning, one manufacturing, one shipment, and you're kind of done with it unless there's a refinement that's needed. So, and then the most important part of it is it fits with how a doctor might want to practice where they don't want to pay as much upfront. They kind of want to look at maybe paying as you go and the NOA product gets to that.
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Joseph Hogan1:01:39
And back to your question, it's Joe on the US marketplace particularly wires and brackets and ratios with clear liners. I tell you got to be careful with the data that you gather out there today and where it's coming from. We find there's a pretty big delta in that data overall. What I'd say is I feel good about our team play overall because with mandibular advancement, with occlusal blocks, Invisalign First that I referenced in my script and also IP we're doing better and better on that pre-teen area because what we're offering is so much better than what the traditional kind of appliances were to be able to do that and we see good progress in that area. But overall I wouldn't say a whole lot of change over the quarters in the US orthodontic market. Wires and brackets versus the liners except for what we're seeing in the pre-teen side has been pretty substantial.
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John Morici1:02:30
Thanks Aaron. Next question please.
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Operator1:02:34
Thank you. Our next question comes from Kevin Cali with UBS. Your line is open.
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Kevin Cali1:02:41
Hey guys, thanks for getting me in. I appreciate it. I have two if I can. First one is with all the questions around resin and oil. Can you just remind us what percentage of your COGS are resin and what would be the impact on direct fab in terms of reducing those costs like the potential opportunity there just trying to think about this as an overhang and then the second question is more I just want to make sure I understand the commentary broadly about your guidance. In essence what you're doing is you're taking the trends that you've seen in 1Q and into April you're sort of running those through for the full year, but then adding on some kind of undisclosed amount of prudence with regards to the macro and the war and everything else. Is that a fair way to describe it? Thanks, guys.
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John Morici1:03:33
That's a fair way to describe it, Kevin. In terms of the guidance, it's like you're going to have puts and takes as you go through the quarter. We net those together, put that into Q2 and total year. So, that's an accurate way to view that. And then in terms of oil prices, there's really two effects that can affect our business from that standpoint on a direct basis. One is the actual material costs. Say about 25% of our COGS is kind of the resin plastics. There's a lot of contracts that we have where we have fixed amounts that there's not a lot of room for negotiation in terms of inflationary effects that we take. So, we feel we're pretty protected on that. The other piece might be on freight and logistics. And again, we're pretty controlled on that as well. So not to say that there's not some impact that we've seen from higher costs related to some inputs, but it's been manageable and we've managed it in the first quarter and expect to be able to manage it going forward.
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Joseph Hogan1:04:34
Hey Kevin, Joe, on the direct fab side, I mean, you called out, I mean, there's an obvious aspect when you direct print, you don't have the 95% kind of scrap base that you use on our current vacuum forming piece. So, that's always there. And, you know, our feed stream is more of a natural feed stream. There's not really a feed stream from a petrochemical standpoint. So, it helps isolate you overall. But remember, I mean that play, it's a great thing about that on direct fab is it will help us significantly in the sense of efficiency in that way. But how you can make an aligner and the flexibility to make it and variable wall thickness and being able to design aligners to each individual cases to an extreme we could never do before. Still a primary driver, but you do have these auxiliary areas that really help in the sense of how the resin's obtained and how it's used.
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John Morici1:05:27
Great. Thanks, Kevin. Next question.
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Operator1:05:32
Thank you. Our final question comes from Michael Ryskin with Bank of America. Your line is open.
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Michael Ryskin1:05:38
Hey, thanks guys. Thanks for keeping me in. I'll try to be quick. One is just following up on I think Elizabeth's question on ASPs. In the past, I think you talked about a 1 to 2% decline ASPs for the year. You're 1250 in 1Q. You pointed to around 1250 2Q implies still a little bit of a step down 3Q 4Q. Is that still in the guide? I think it is, but I just want to confirm you didn't call out the full-year ASP dynamic.
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John Morici1:06:04
Yeah, Michael. The 1 to 2% decrease on a year-over-year basis is our expectation. You're going to have that mix that we talk about, whether it's product or country mix. But that plays out each quarter and throughout the year.
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Michael Ryskin1:06:20
Okay. And then quick follow-up if I may. Another question earlier asked sort of about US versus OUS and some of the, why is US just not quite at the same level as the others? You talked about the macro. Going to ask it a different way. The DSO versus retail channel. Is that some of the same dynamics? I know, retail's obviously been weaker. DSO has been a strong point for a while. So, it's nothing new, but just is that sort of the same answer of macro and just harder to push that through or is there anything new that's impacting that channel? Thanks.
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Joseph Hogan1:06:52
Yeah, no change to what we've seen, Michael. We're very pleased with the DSO growth and it continues to be in many places double digit growth. And that's a reflection of really those groups taking a lot of the tools that we offer and bring together, whether it's the scale, the technology, and the brand, and they do a great job of bringing all together and really being much more active to try to drive that conversion with their potential patients. So, that plays out, and that's the force multiplier that we talk about. You just don't see that as much, at least on a consistent basis, on the retail side. We're working to try to get those retail doctors to operate more like some of the DSOs, but broadly it plays out as we've seen and it's up to us to try to get after those retail doctors with our sales force, with the technology, with the marketing and so on to try to get them more active.
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Michael Ryskin1:07:46
Awesome. Makes sense. Thanks a lot.
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John Morici1:07:48
Thanks, Mike.
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Operator1:07:50
Thank you. And we have reached the end of our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back over to Shirley Stacy for closing remarks.
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Shirley Stacy1:08:00
Great. Thank you everyone for joining us today. We look forward to meeting you at upcoming conferences and industry meetings, including the AAO meeting in Orlando this Friday. If you have any follow-up questions, please contact investor relations. Have a great day.
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Operator1:08:14
Thank you. This concludes today's conference and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.