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Todd Schneider
Chief Executive Officer, President & Director, Cintas Corporation

Cintas Corp ($CTAS) Q4 2025 Earnings Call

🎥 May 14, 2026 📺 Castify Earnings Call ⏱ 59m
CTAS - Earnings call Q4 2025.
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About Todd Schneider

Todd Schneider, president and chief executive officer of Cintas, discussed the company's fiscal 2026 fourth quarter results on a July 15, 2026 earnings call. He reported that total revenue increased 8.9% to $2.91 billion, with organic revenue growth of 8.4%. Schneider stated that the company expects fiscal 2027 revenue in the range of $12.1 billion to $12.25 billion, representing total growth of 7.4% to 8.7%, and adjusted diluted earnings per share between $5.36 and $5.50, representing growth of 8.5% to 11.3%. He attributed the company's performance to its culture, which he described as "our greatest competitive advantage," and noted that the company's "total addressable market is so massive that it allows for opportunities in various economic cycles." Schneider also highlighted growth in end markets such as healthcare, education, and hospitality, while noting that white-collar job weakness was less relevant to the company's uniform rental business.

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Transcript (100 segments)
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Operator0:00
Good day everyone and welcome to the Cintas Corporation announces fiscal 2025 fourth quarter and full year results conference call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Jared Mattingley, vice president, treasurer, and investor relations. Please go ahead, sir.
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Jared Mattingley0:21
Thank you, Ross. Thank you for joining us. With me are Todd Schneider, president and chief executive officer, Jim Rosakis, executive vice president and chief operating officer, and Scott Gerula, executive vice president and chief financial officer. We will discuss our fiscal 2025 fourth quarter and full year results. After our commentary, we will open the call to questions from analysts. The Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 provides a safe harbor from civil litigation for forward-looking statements. This conference call contains forward-looking statements that reflect the company's current views as to future events and financial performance. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results to differ materially from those we may discuss. I refer you to the discussion on these points contained in our most recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. I'll now turn the call over to Todd.
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Todd Schneider1:19
Thank you, Jared, and thank you all for joining us. I'd like to take a moment and welcome Jim and Scott to our call today. Jim is a seasoned leader that brings 26 years of experience with Cintas and over the last two years has served as Cintas's chief operating officer. Scott was recently appointed as our chief financial officer and brings with him over 29 years of experience including leading each of our route-based businesses. On today's call, I'll start by sharing an overview of the quarter, the year, and our outlook for fiscal 2026. Jim will share some more detail on our segment performance and the drivers in the business. And Scott will wrap up with more detail on our financials. We are pleased to have delivered a strong fourth quarter to close out another impressive fiscal year for Cintas. We delivered robust topline growth and maintained healthy margins and cash flow, demonstrating the strength of our value proposition. In the fourth quarter, total revenue grew 8% to $2.67 billion. Our organic growth rate, which adjusts for the impacts of acquisitions, foreign currency exchange rate fluctuations, and workday differences, was 9%. We continue to execute at a high level across each of our businesses, including organic growth of 7.2% in the uniform rental and facility services segment and 18.5% in our first aid and safety segment. All other, which includes our fire protection services and uniform direct sale, grew organically by 11.1%. Turning to profitability, gross margin for the fourth quarter grew 9.1% over the prior year from 49.2% to 49.7%. Operating income as a percentage of revenue increased 9.1% over the prior year and diluted EPS increased 9% to a dollar nine. We remain confident the strategic investments we made in the business position us to capitalize on future growth opportunities. Those investments include technology that makes it easier for our employee partners to do their jobs such as our SAP system and smart truck platform. Investments in our infrastructure to increase capacity and position our employee partners for success as well as investments in management trainees and selling resources. For the full year, fiscal 2025 revenue was a record $10.34 billion, an increase of 7.7%. Organic growth was 8% for the year. Our topline growth continues to underscore the strength of Cintas's value proposition. Operating margins for the full year were 22.8%, an increase of 14.1% and an all-time high compared to our prior year operating margin of 21.6%. Diluted earnings per share of $4.40 grew 16.1% over the prior year. Balanced capital allocation remains a key pillar of our strategy. In the fourth quarter and throughout fiscal 2025, we continue to deploy capital across all of our strategic priorities, including reinvesting in our products, people, and technologies to ensure we are best positioned to deliver value for our customers. Looking ahead to fiscal 26, our financial expectations reflect both the strength of the underlying business and our commitment to disciplined execution. Scott will later touch on the assumptions included in our guidance. We expect our revenue to be in the range of $11 billion to $11.15 billion, a total growth rate of 6.4% to 7.8%. We expect diluted EPS to be in the range of $4.71 to $4.85, a growth rate of 7% to 10.2%. Our fourth quarter and full year 2025 results and 2026 outlook underscore the strength of our business model and our ability to execute in a dynamic environment. Fiscal 2025 now marks 54 years out of the last 56 years that we've grown sales and adjusted EPS. I want to thank all of our employee partners for their hard work and dedication. With our culture of continuous improvement, superior products and services, and disciplined execution, we are well positioned for sustained growth and value creation. Lastly, we were named to the prestigious Fortune 500 for the ninth consecutive year. It is an honor to be recognized among the most successful and respected companies. We're proud of these results and the value we continue to deliver for Cintas's shareholders. With that, I'll turn it over to Jim for additional insights.
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Jim Rosakis6:15
Thanks, Todd, and good morning. We continue to grow at attractive rates by helping new customers meet their needs of image, safety, cleanliness, and compliance. We are seeing success in adding new products and new services to existing customers. Our retention rates are right at our all-time highs, and pricing continues to be at our historical levels. Turning to the fourth quarter organic growth by business. We grew 7.2% for uniform rental and facility services, 18.5% for first aid and safety services, 12.1% for fire protection services, and uniform direct sale was up 9%. As we've done in the past, I will share a revenue mix of the uniform rental and facility services operating segment for the fourth quarter. Keep in mind there can be small fluctuations in mix between quarters. Uniform rental was 48%. Dust was 19%. Hygiene was 16%. Shop towels were 3%. Linen, which includes microfiber, wipes, towels, and aprons, was 10%. And catalog revenue was 4%. These percentages are consistent with last year and demonstrate we continue to experience strong demand across all our products and services. Gross margin percentage by business was 49% for uniform rental and facility services, 56.8% for first aid and safety services, 49.3% for fire protection services, and 41.6% for uniform direct sale. Gross margin on the uniform rental facility services segment increased 40 basis points from last year. Our progress year-over-year reflects the positive impacts made by our excellent supply chain team as well as cost savings initiatives such as our garment sharing technology enhancements like our auto sortation systems in our plants and our proprietary smart truck solution that makes our routes more efficient. Gross margin for the first aid and safety services segment increased 140 basis points from last year, driven by strong revenue growth continuing to create leverage, a healthy revenue mix that includes growth in high margin recurring revenue products like AED rentals, eyewash stations, and water break as well as cost savings initiatives such as smart truck and improved sourcing. Before I turn over to Scott, I'd like to share an example that demonstrates how we're delivering for our customers. A customer in the southeastern part of the country has been a valued customer for over 10 years. For most of that time, we provided them exclusively with facility services, products, and services. Their maintenance department uniforms were direct purchase, what we would call a no-programmer. Our customer approached us to see if we could help them address three key pain points. One, the initial investment and ongoing costs associated with replacing uniforms due to turnover and damage made it difficult to forecast spend and manage cash flow. Two, their employees expressed a strong preference for the convenience and professionalism of a laundered uniform program over washing their uniforms at home. Three, their managers found that overseeing uniform logistics in-house took valuable time away from focusing on their core business operations. In response, we successfully introduced our uniform rental program on top of our facility services offering. But the story doesn't end there. We also earned the trust of the culinary department, onboarding those employees who had previously been with a traditional uniform competitor. The switch was driven by a premium Chef Works exclusive attire and the opportunity for vendor consolidation. This example underscores several points. First, we don't always have to lead with uniforms. In this case, we had a long successful relationship with a customer built on our facility services offering. Second, we can grow in a variety of different ways. We can convert no-programmers to a rental program. We can add new customers that are currently with another uniform rental provider by offering premium products and services. And we can grow by adding new products and services to our existing customers. This example also illustrates how Cintas is more than a service provider. We are true problem solvers committed to helping our customers succeed. And by staying attuned to their feedback, we continue to strengthen our relationships and expand our footprint across industries. And now turn over to Scott for additional details on capital allocation strategy and 2026 outlook.
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Scott Gerula10:20
Thank you, Jim. And good morning, everyone. As Todd mentioned, we closed our fiscal year with strong financial performance. Our balance sheet remains healthy and during fiscal 2025 we generated $1.6 billion of free cash flow. In the fourth quarter we were able to put our capital to work through capital expenditures of $114.6 million, acquisitions of $34.1 million, dividends of $157.8 million, and share repurchases of $256.7 million. Our effective tax rate for the fourth quarter was 22.1% compared to 21.4% last year. For fiscal 2025, the effective tax rate was 20% compared to 20.4% the prior year. During fiscal year 2025, we deployed significant capital across each of our capital allocation priorities. This capital allocation strategy has been effective for many years and has served us well. We invested $489 million in capital expenditures which helps support investments in our technology and infrastructure. Capital expenditures were 4% of revenue which is right where we like to be. We invested $232.9 million in acquisitions in fiscal 2025, representing our largest year of M&A activity in almost 20 years, excluding our 2017 acquisition of G&K. These acquisitions span across each of our three route-based segments, adding new customers, extending capacity, and delivering compelling synergies. By optimizing our existing route structure, we've been able to spend more time with customers while reducing time spent on the road. Acquisitions remain an important lever for growth, enabling us to broaden our offerings and deliver greater value to our stakeholders. Additionally, we returned over a billion and a half dollars to shareholders through dividends and share buybacks. Almost $612 million in dividend payments marks the 41st consecutive year that we've increased our dividend, which is every year since going public. We also repurchased approximately $935 million of shares during fiscal year 2025. Todd provided our fiscal 2026 outlook at the start of the call and I'd like to provide some context on a few assumptions underpinning our guidance. Please note that both fiscal 2025 and fiscal 2026 have the same number of work dates for the year and by quarter. Our guidance does not assume any future acquisitions. Our guidance assumes a constant foreign currency exchange rate. The fiscal 2026 interest net is expected to be approximately $98 million. The fiscal 2026 effective tax rate is expected to be 20% which is the same as fiscal 2025. And our guidance includes no future share buybacks or significant economic disruptions or downturn. With that, I'll turn it back over to Todd for closing remarks.
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Todd Schneider13:56
Thank you, Scott. As we look ahead to fiscal 2026, our results reflect the strength of our strategy and the value we provide in helping our customers meet their image, safety, cleanliness, and compliance needs. We remain focused on delivering exceptional customer experiences while continuing to make the necessary investments in our business to sustain long-term growth and value creation. Our confidence in our ability to navigate the current environment and capitalize on future opportunities remains strong. Jared, back to you.
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Jared Mattingley14:27
Thanks, Todd, Jim, and Scott. That concludes our prepared remarks. Now, we are happy to answer questions from the analysts. Please ask just one question and a single follow-up if needed. Thank you.
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Operator14:40
If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Now, please be prepared to ask your question when prompted. You will also be allowed to ask one follow-up question. Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your phone now. And our first question comes from George Tong from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead, George.
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George Tong15:05
Hi, thanks. Good morning. Starting at a high level, can you talk a little bit about what the overall selling environment looks like, including how sales cycles are performing and how client sentiment is trending?
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Todd Schneider15:20
Good morning, George. Thanks for the question. I'll start and Jim, if you want to add any color. No real change to the customer behavior. Sales cycles, you know, new business remains strong. Our retention rates are still at very attractive levels. Add stops, really no significant change there. It is, there is clearly more uncertainty in the marketplace with the tariff trade, taxes, which has a little bit more clarity, and interest rates. But nevertheless, our value proposition continues to resonate and it resonates in virtually every economic cycle, hence our 54 of the last 56 years and we expect that to continue and we like the position we're in. Anything else, Jim, on customer behavior that you'd like to contribute?
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Jim Rosakis16:20
Yeah, I think maybe Todd the only color I would add on that is that the customer behavior offers an opportunity for us to add value to our customers. I was recently at an operational visit and in a routine conversation, one of our employee partners was out at a customer site. And as you can imagine, during traditional rapport building, the customer expressed concern regarding the overall uncertainty in a macro environment. Our employee partner turned that into an opportunity to discuss further Cintas products and services. And we found out that we were able to go ahead and save this customer significant money on something as simple as disposable gloves. So there certainly is a degree as you described of a little bit of uncertainty, that uncertainty creates opportunity and the customers are looking for answers and often times we're able to provide those answers for them.
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George Tong17:09
Very helpful. And then my follow-up, you're continuing to see and deliver operating margin expansion from what was 40-50% before to around 25%. Can you talk a bit about what factors may be causing this narrowing rate of margin expansion?
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Todd Schneider17:27
Yeah, George. Yeah, we had another really good profit quarter. We did run 22.4% operating profit for the quarter. That brings us to 35% incrementals for the year excluding our land sale. I will say last year Q4 was by far our best profit quarter. So, the comparables were certainly tougher. And as you know, running a business isn't linear, but we like where we are. We're right in that sweet spot of 25 to 35% incrementals. And we're investing for the future. And we're doing that because we see the opportunities ahead and we like what the opportunities look like for us. So we're investing appropriately.
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George Tong18:15
Got it. Very helpful. Thank you.
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Todd Schneider18:17
Thank you.
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Operator18:20
And our next question comes from Jasper Bib from Truist Securities. Please go ahead, Jasper.
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Jasper Bib18:26
Hey, good morning guys. I know you don't get all the way down, I was just hoping you could give a little bit more color on the cadence of your 26 outlook as I imagine you're going to have a lot more difficult comps on the incremental margin front in the first half versus second half.
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Todd Schneider18:42
Jasper, thanks for the question. Yeah, on the revenue side we just finished a very successful year where we grew 7.7% which is right where we want to be. The 26 revenue guide calls for 6.4 to 7.8% growth which again is right where we like to be and sets us up for another really good year. We're performing well and we like the momentum that we have in the business. On the EPS side, we had a great year in FY25 and we think we're set up for another really good year in FY26. The guide calls for EPS growth of 7% to 10.2% which infers margin expansion throughout the guide. And at the midpoint of revenue EPS guide, it also represents operating margin above 23% and incrementals in the high 20s. So this is all consistent with how we guided last year. And this year certainly the macro environment is, there is a little bit more uncertainty. But we think we're well positioned to navigate the environment and have another very successful year in 26.
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Jasper Bib19:58
Got it. And hoping maybe you could give some color on what you're seeing in add stops and how you're thinking about that trend in your fiscal 26 guidance.
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Todd Schneider20:09
Yeah. Jasper, good question. You know, we have an incredibly broad customer base. So we have some customers that are absolutely thriving in this environment. Some are dealing with input cost challenges. But the net net is our customer base is still performing well and we think that we're in a good position there. Keep in mind 70% of our customer base are in the services providing sector, 30% in the goods producing. But we, so from an add stop standpoint, we think we're in a good spot. We don't give out that specific number, but we like the momentum that we see in our business.
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Jasper Bib20:57
Thanks for taking the question.
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Operator21:01
And our next question comes from Manav Patnik from Barclays Capital. Please go ahead, Manav.
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Ronan Kennedy21:09
Hi, good morning. This is Ronan Kennedy on for Manav. Thank you for taking my questions. You touched on this in response to Jasper's question, but if I may just look to go a little more granular, the 26 guide, the implied operating income margins at 25% I think are at the lower end of the midterm guide of 25 to 35 and then 23 and 27 at the low and high ends respectively. There's obviously an element of operating leverage at play and revenues, but any further insights you can shed as to the puts and takes of the drivers of those incrementals, whether it's the positive impacts of supply chain tech initiatives or the negative impacts say of the SAP implementation for fire protection. Any further insights on kind of puts and takes to those incrementals, please?
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Todd Schneider21:54
Yeah, thank you Ronan. Yeah, we like our guide. We think the incrementals are right where we want to be. Certainly, we will be continuing to invest in SAP in our fire business. That's not an inexpensive effort there. But that's all contemplated in our guide as is any input cost challenges that are thrown our way as a result of the macro environment that we're dealing with, etc. So we feel good about the spot we're in from an incremental margin standpoint. Again, 25 to 35% and we're investing appropriately. Running a business isn't linear. So, we're focused on the long term and positioning our partners and our customers to be incredibly successful and we like the spot that we're in.
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Ronan Kennedy23:01
Thank you. And then for my follow-up, please, similar question but in relation to revenues, the range and the guided revenue range is I think 140 basis points which you understandably indicated is right where you want to be. I also think that range is consistent with the guided range for F-25. Can you give us any further insight as to what that contemplates from organic by department or the expected contributions from say price, new biz, etc. versus historicals. Any further insight there, please be greatly appreciated.
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Todd Schneider23:32
Yeah, certainly. Ronan, yeah, we again we like our guide on the revenue as well. We think we're positioned there. You know, the net for us, we want to grow our business in the mid to high single digits revenue. We certainly expect that our rental business will be similar. And our fire and first aid businesses be in the double digit area. And then in our uniform direct sale business, as we've detailed out, we're not trying to grow that as aggressively. Low single digits would be a good way to think about it. But it is a very strategic business because those rather large customers we sell our route-based businesses into as well. So that's kind of how we think about it.
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Ronan Kennedy24:25
Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
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Todd Schneider24:28
Thank you.
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Operator24:29
And our next question comes from Tim Maloney from William Blair. Please go ahead, Tim.
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Tim Maloney24:37
Yeah, Todd, Jim, Scott, good morning.
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Todd Schneider24:40
Good morning, Tim.
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Tim Maloney24:42
Thanks for taking my question. So, just the first one on the quarter, your fourth quarter result here. You know, organic growth was 9%. That was well above consensus, I think, was also above what was implied by your own guidance range that you provided last quarter. So, I'm just curious, you know, what business lines or sectors picked up during the quarter relative to your view on expectations.
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Todd Schneider25:07
Yeah, thank you, Tim. Yeah, we're really proud of our fourth quarter performance. It did exceed our expectations. You know, I think it underscores the momentum we have in our business but we did have some, I'll call it more discreet type one-time benefits in the area of our first aid business. We were propelled by a great performance in our training area which those tend to be a little bit more discreet one-time in nature. Our uniform direct sale business grew 9% which was a really strong close to what was a bumpy year. So, a little bit more one-time in nature there. But we're really proud of the performance in the close to the year and we think we're well positioned for FY26.
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Tim Maloney26:04
Okay, no follow-up needed. Thanks guys.
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Todd Schneider26:06
Thank you.
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Operator26:09
And our next question comes from Andrew Steinerman from JP Morgan. Please go ahead Andrew.
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Andrew Steinerman26:14
Hi. The quarter ended six weeks ago and I just wanted to get a sense of how the current quarter started, just what's already kind of behind us in June and the first couple weeks of July in terms of revenue growth momentum. Has it sort of been consistent with the way you finished the quarter? And then I'll just ask my second question also. I just saw some discussion, I was just wondering if there's any recent changes to your go-to market strategy particularly around national accounts.
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Todd Schneider26:52
Good morning Andrew. Thanks for the question. First off, yeah you're right. I mean, we're, because of this being our Q4 call, we are further into our quarter than normal. And the start of the year's, it's starting exactly the way we expected and it's reflected in our guide. So kind of consistent with what we expected for the start of the year. As for our go-to market strategy, that really hasn't changed. You know, websites change. And we talk about trying to position ourselves appropriately to all of our customers. But we've been in the national account business for 30 plus years. I'd say virtually my entire career. And the only thing I would call out is our vertical strategy is obviously has been different over the last five to 10 years and that has performed well. So no other change and no real change in our market strategy. We're constantly reinvesting in our products and services to make them of more value to our customers and to position our employee partners to make it easier to take care of our customers. So, there's always refreshes going on. A product here, product there. That's just part of our culture to try to make sure we're positioned to be as successful as possible.
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Andrew Steinerman28:31
Sounds right. Thanks.
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Todd Schneider28:33
Thank you.
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Operator28:38
And our next question comes from Josh Chan from UBS. Please go ahead Josh.
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Josh Chan28:43
Hi. Good morning, Todd, Jim, Scott, Jared. As you look into your different cost buckets kind of going into 2026, you know, material, labor, your fleet, anything to highlight in terms of trajectory of cost changes. And maybe on the material side, could you touch on potential tariff impacts and how that could impact kind of the cost. Thank you.
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Todd Schneider29:10
Yeah, good morning, Josh. Why don't I just speak a little bit about that subject? You know, we believe we're in a good position to navigate through what is clearly a very dynamic environment with challenges like tariffs and what have you. We think it gives us an opportunity to flex our strength which is our people and our culture which in and all this is reflected in our guide. We contemplated some additional expense into the guide. But we have some, we think some real advantages. First off, we, the
The nature of how we expense our goods in our largest businesses is because we amortize it, which gives us time. You probably noticed on our balance sheet our inventory is up. We've anticipated and managed this appropriately. I'd also like to say that we've navigated this very successfully in the past. The past five years, whether it's been inflation or supply chain challenges, our global supply chain has shined and has been a competitive advantage for us in the marketplace. As a reminder, we source products all over the world, so we have great geographic diversity. We also have 90% or so of our products with two or more sources. You put that together with our buying power, all that gives us options and leverage. We think that positions us well. You put on top of that our corporate culture traits of positive discontent, competitive urgency, it fuels us to look at process improvements and finding ways to extract inefficiencies out of our business so that we can be more efficient. We don't take the approach that well, if a tariff is going to raise a cost then we just got to eat that and pass it along to our customer. That's not how we run our business and it's not how we've run it in the past and it's not how we're going to run it in the future. We think it gives us an opportunity to shine.
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Scott Gerula31:41
Josh, if I might add to that. I think Todd did a great job describing the supply chain. He also talked about some of the work we're doing to remove inefficiencies. We have several initiatives ongoing. Some were mentioned in our prepared remarks that are all in play and again contemplated in next year's expectations. But garment sharing would be one that I think would be worth highlighting here. We continue to leverage the SAP platform to be able to share goods that we have in inventory across our entire network. That's been quite effective and we think we got some room to go on that one. Automating within our plants and deploying auto sortation technology in our plants. We have about 50% of our plants have some degree of auto sortation and we're in the middle of trying to deploy more of that. In the past it's been challenging due to our plants being all different shapes and sizes. We believe that we've developed technology to overcome that and limit the disruption. Those are in motion and we expect those to continue to deploy this year. Todd mentioned operational excellence. Operational excellence is us really maximizing the assets specifically in our rental business around the plant. That allows us to continue to defer capital expenditure. It also allows us to run those plants more efficiently, allowing us to wash fewer loads, consume less energy, less chemistry and water within our facilities. And then maybe last that I would be mentioning would be our smart truck initiative that's been ongoing now for several years. That allows us to incrementally route our fleets more efficiently, get them more time in front of the customer. But certainly route growth is significantly less than what our revenue growth is and we're going to continue that in this next fiscal.
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Andrew Steinerman33:27
That's great. Yeah, I appreciate the context there. That's really helpful. And then I guess for my followup, I think Scott, you highlighted the M&A spend this past year. Just wonder if you could comment on the prospect of M&A kind of going forward and how the pipeline of the bolt-ons look at the moment. Thank you.
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Todd Schneider33:48
Why don't I start a little bit on pipeline and then Scott can talk about capital allocation. M&A is tough to predict but it's very important to us. These relationships that we have, we've had for decades and trying to figure out when a business is going to be interested in selling is, I mean it's not random but it is certainly tough to predict. We had a great year. We leverage those relationships that we've had for decades. But we're in the business of buying really good businesses. And when you buy really good businesses, you get a lot of things, but you get customers and you get employee partners and are the most important areas. And in certain cases we get capacity, and if we don't get capacity, we get really good synergy. So we'll continue to work our pipeline but nevertheless, we can't time it, but we're highly active so that when somebody is interested we're well positioned for that. Scott, do you want to talk a little bit about capital allocation?
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Scott Gerula35:09
Yeah, thanks. Todd, as I mentioned in our prepared remarks, our approach to a balanced capital allocation strategy has served us well for many years. I've been part of that in my prior roles and really don't see a change in that in the future. And continue not only to invest in M&A activity, we'll continue to reinvest back in the business via capital expenditures and continue to invest in both dividends and be opportunistic with share buybacks.
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Andrew Steinerman35:48
Great. Thank you for your time and congrats on a good quarter.
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Todd Schneider35:52
Thank you. Thank you.
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Operator35:54
And our next question comes from Jason Hus from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead, Jason.
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Jason Hus36:00
Hey, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. I'm curious if you expect the industry to pass on higher price increases in fiscal 2026 given the tariff driven inflation and if that's something that you baked into your guidance assuming you could take more price as well or if that could represent upside. Thank you.
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Todd Schneider36:20
Thanks for the question Jason. Our pricing strategy is we're back at historical levels on pricing. We certainly don't control how our competitors price things but we expect to be at historical levels of pricing, what we know of the environment today. We think we're well positioned, it's contemplated in our guide. And as I mentioned earlier, we don't just run our business in a manner where well if a tariff comes through and there is some cost increase, first off we don't just accept that and then secondly we find ways to run our business more efficiently because we operate in a competitive environment, competitive marketplace and as a result we want to make sure that we're being great fiduciaries for not only our shareholders and our partners but our customers. So our guide contemplates historical pricing and that's how we would plan to manage the business.
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Jason Hus37:34
Okay. Thank you. That's helpful. And then as a followup, I was curious in this environment if you're seeing more competitive wins particularly from some of your larger competitors that are out there since it seems like your growth rates are quite elevated versus what we've seen from others. Thank you.
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Todd Schneider37:53
Yeah. So again, thanks for the question. No real change in the marketplace, I'd say from a competitive landscape. It's been competitive my entire career and I'm sure it will be in the future as well. That being said, we don't look at it as a finite pie. We have a little over a million business customers. There's 16 to 17 million businesses in the US and Canada. So we look at it as an opportunity to go and sell more to those customers who are not buying from us today. And then we have this incredible opportunity to sell more products and services to our current customers. So how someone else in our direct competitor might be growing, that's not of interest to us. We're more focused on how can we provide more value to our customers? How can we position our employee partners to be more successful? We want to be easier to do business with. Want to be easier for our partners to sell and easier for our customers for them to do business with us.
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Jason Hus39:08
Thank you. That's very helpful.
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Operator39:13
And our next question comes from Ashish Sabadra from RBC. Please go ahead Ashish.
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Ashish Sabadra39:20
Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to focus on the four strategic verticals healthcare, government, education and hospitality. I was wondering if you could just provide any update on those fronts and any big initiative as we go into 2026. Thanks.
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Todd Schneider39:34
Good morning Ashish. Thanks for the question. I'll start and then Jim feel free to chime in. We like all our verticals. We think we've chosen them really well. As a reminder, we don't just sell into those verticals. We organize around them from a business standpoint to make sure that we can service them appropriately and provide better value. But we think we've chosen them quite well. And we expect them all to perform above our average growth rates. Jim, anything specific on verticals you'd like to call out?
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Jim Rosakis40:12
I guess I would just add that by organizing around the verticals it allows us to gain intimate knowledge and really understand the industries well. Therefore we're able to collaborate and innovate solutions that we bring to the marketplace that not only allow us to have solid growth within those verticals. But oftentimes those solutions could expand outside of those verticals. And one we've discussed in the past has been our healthcare journey and our journey with really what initiated a scrub dispensing, that scrub dispensing service now is out beyond just healthcare and we see lots of applications for that. We've gone on a recent journey in healthcare to really innovate and change how we go to market for privacy curtains and we believe that those are indicative in the types of solutions that you're able to bring to marketplace when you get that involved and invested in particular verticals and we want to continue to do that moving forward.
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Todd Schneider41:08
We hear from our customers, as Jim mentioned when you organize around them and you spend that much time with them, you hear where they need help and where they're struggling for whether it's cleanliness or compliance or image or safety. And Jim just walked through the privacy curtains and it's a great example where customers really struggled with that with the compliance which affects cleanliness and we didn't just roll out privacy curtains. We invested in technology around that and also in improving how they function. And as a result of that we have patents around that and we've got a lot of customers that have been really excited and happy about what we're doing there.
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Ashish Sabadra42:03
That's great color. And maybe just on the followup, we've seen some material acceleration in the first aid business. It seems like based on the prepared remark that it was broad-based across products, but I was just curious if there is incremental traction that you're getting for certain products or just improving penetration. Any color there will be helpful. Thanks.
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Todd Schneider42:23
Yeah, great question. And we love the first aid business and it's performing at a very exciting clip. The value that they provide to the customers is reflecting. Jim talked a little bit about that, we've got some good momentum around certain products and services. AEDs have been in great demand. That's been good. Our water break, our eyewash stations, those recurring revenue type products are really good for us. But our cabinet business is attractive. So we've invested appropriately there and we're seeing the benefits of that. That being said, we did benefit from a spike in training during the quarter, which we don't expect to continue at those levels, but nevertheless, we think we're well positioned to be successful in the marketplace in the first aid business.
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Ashish Sabadra43:23
That's great color. Thank you.
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Todd Schneider43:25
Thank you.
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Operator43:27
And our next question comes from Schlommo Rosenbomb from Stifel Nicholas. Please go ahead, Schlommo.
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Schlommo Rosenbomb43:33
Hi, thank you for taking my questions. So, I want to piggyback a little on Ashish's question. In that first aid business, how much of that revenue would you say is more kind of recurring and how much of that business is usually training and other areas that might be more one-timeish?
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Todd Schneider43:53
Yeah, good morning Schlommo. We won't give out the exact percentages as far as revenue that's recurring versus more on consumption. But nevertheless we're constantly reinvesting in that business to try to come up with products and services that are of real value to the customers and we're seeing the benefits there. So that's part of our culture is that reinvestment and we'll continue down that path and we think again we're well positioned to be successful in that market and the demand is showing and we expect that that business will grow in the low double digits moving forward. And we like the spot for there.
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Schlommo Rosenbomb44:47
Okay, thank you. And just for the followup, could you comment a little on the spike up in uniform sales? Is that, and you know, usually I know you expect it to grow in the low single digits and was there something that will carry forward into the next quarter or two or was it really just kind of a one quarter kind of fulfillment of something?
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Todd Schneider45:10
Yeah, good question, Schlommo. Yeah, in the uniform direct sale business, we do expect that to grow in the low single digits. It was a bumpy year for them and they had a really strong close but I would not expect that that would continue into the fiscal year. We plan for that business to grow in the low single digits and because of the nature of it with rollouts it can be a little bit of lumpiness to that and Q4 was really strong close to the year.
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Schlommo Rosenbomb45:45
Thank you.
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Todd Schneider45:47
Thank you.
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Operator45:48
And our next question comes from Stephanie Moore from Jefferies. Please go ahead, Stephanie.
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Stephanie Moore45:55
Great. Good morning. Thank you. I was hoping you could talk a little bit about some of your end market exposure. If you're seeing any kind of weakness or strength in particular end markets, you know, maybe the manufacturing sector, for example, has been kind of weak across the board here in the US, but any areas of weakness or areas of strength that you could call out? Thank you.
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Todd Schneider46:16
Yeah. Good morning Stephanie. In general again we have an incredibly broad customer base whether it's by business type, NAICS code and also geographically. So no real weakness that we're seeing whatsoever in the marketplace. Certainly the goods producing customers have been under more pressure the last few years. The services providing customers are trying to fulfill demand. So the net net of it is no real weakness that we're seeing there. We would be encouraged to see more production coming back into the US from the goods producing sector. And we would, we're hoping for more certainty as far as what the trade looks like which will allow business people to invest appropriately. And we are hopeful that that will come here in the near future.
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Stephanie Moore47:23
Got it. And then really just any kind of, I guess just one followup here. As you think about your M&A opportunity, obviously you've given some color today on kind of your continued focus on M&A, but are there any areas that you would look at expanding an M&A outside of kind of the core uniform area?
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Todd Schneider47:43
Yeah. Thanks for the question, Stephanie. First off, we're inquisitive in each of our route-based businesses. And that's a key component of our strategy. We love when we make an acquisition. I talked about synergies and I talked about capacity. But it does give us an opportunity to go to those customers with a broader breadth of products and services that we can help them with. So that's an important function. But yeah, we're inquisitive in each of our route-based businesses. And we're always, various people bring us opportunities outside of those. And we don't need to go outside of those. The opportunity in our business is significant. As I mentioned, a little over a million business customers, with 16-17 million businesses in US and Canada. So the opportunity looking forward is very encouraging and we're staying disciplined while being aware of opportunities that are out there. But all three route-based businesses, we're trying to make deals.
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Stephanie Moore49:01
Thank you. Appreciate it.
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Todd Schneider49:04
Yes, ma'am. Thank you.
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Operator49:06
And our next question comes from Scott Schneberger from Oppenheimer. Please go ahead, Scott.
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Scott Schneberger49:12
Thanks very much. Todd, I believe you mentioned progress relating to smart truck and improved sourcing. Could you please elaborate on that? And then my followup I'll ask up front for Scott. It sounds like we should be expecting 4% of revenue capex again in fiscal 26. I'm just curious digging in from the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, anything to expect there impacting cash flow in 26 or any other aspects of the business? Thanks guys.
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Todd Schneider49:46
Well, thank you for the question, Scott. Yeah, as I mentioned and I think Jim expanded upon that, Smart Truck has been a great investment for us. It's technology that allows us to spend more time with the customer and less time driving. And as we like to say around here, we don't generate any revenue when the wheels are turning. We only generate revenue when the wheels stop. And that technology has allowed us to improve upon that. Jim mentioned that we're adding routes at a certainly a slower pace and we're adding revenue. And that speaks to just what I mentioned. From a sourcing standpoint, we're constantly working on improving sourcing. We have seen benefits over the past few years with our centralized purchasing with our first aid distribution center. But our sourcing organization is working overtime right now because of the environment with tariffs being uncertain there. But we're encouraged by what they do, how they do it, and we again we think this will give them an opportunity to shine. Scott, if you want to talk a little bit about capex and cash flow.
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Scott Gerula51:08
Yeah, thanks Todd. Thanks for the question, Scott. Regarding capex, it came in at 4% of revenue in fiscal year 25. And we expect to be in that, you know, 3.5 to 4% going forward. As we know, investments can fluctuate from quarter to quarter and year to year but we like to be in that 3.5 to 4% range as a percent of sales. I believe your second question was related to the tax bill and we are not, based on the strength of our balance sheet and financials, we're not expecting any material impact from the tax bill on our tax rate, cash flow or the business in general.
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Scott Schneberger51:59
Great. Thanks guys.
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Todd Schneider52:02
Thank you.
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Operator52:03
And our next question comes from Tony Kaplan from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead Tony.
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Yehuda Silverman52:09
Hi, good morning. This is Yehuda Silverman on the line for Tony Kaplan. So, just had a quick question about new sales. So, typically what's the main driver for a customer to switch providers? Is there a certain product or area that's more or most attractive to customers?
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Todd Schneider52:28
Yeah, thank you for the question, Yehuda. It's, we don't care where the customers start doing business with us. Whether it's uniforms or FS as Jim spoke about earlier with his example in his prepared remarks, first aid, fire, uniform, direct sale. We just want to start doing business with them and then as we do business we think that makes it easier because they historically have a very good experience and then it leads to well what else can you help us with and when you have eyes and ears and minds in your customer's place of business on a frequent basis it breeds confidence and it breeds the opportunity as they look out and say what else can we help you with. Jim mentioned a little bit about it really varies based upon where we get started. But also the impetus for a customer to switch. Because of the wide space out there where there's so many businesses that are self-served. That's where we really focus our time and they're all spending money to some degree on items. Meaning their people are wearing clothes. Their people are getting disposables from somewhere. It might be an e-commerce or it might be a brick-and-mortar retail store. So it really varies based upon where the customer is, where their business is at that point. They may be dealing with an environment where they don't have as many people, but the work still needs to be done or they're struggling to keep up with demand. And you can help me with this. Take this off my plate. Be happy for you to do that. Jim, anything else you'd like to add there?
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Jim Rosakis54:27
The only thing I would say is, the new business wins converting from a traditional competitor over to us. They happen for a variety of different reasons and we believe we have a lot of differentiators from the product line to the service to the technology offerings for the customers. But just as a maybe a level setting is that about two-thirds of our new business comes from what we call non-programmers or really that as Todd described the do-it-yourself or the folks that are purchasing from some retail or e-commerce type of solution. And that's where we focus a lot of our time and that's where we have the most success. That's been a strategy for years and will continue to be a strategy and we know that that resonates well in the market.
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Yehuda Silverman55:08
Great. Thank you.
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Operator55:12
And our next question comes from Kartik Ma from North Coast Research. Please go ahead Kartik.
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Kartik Ma55:18
Hey, good morning Todd. Maybe on the first aid business and I know that you're able to get pricing on the uniform side just because of the service level you're providing and I'm wondering as you look at the first aid business and that double-digit growth, what component is price and what's your ability to get price increases?
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Todd Schneider55:42
Good morning Kartik. Great question. The first aid business is, from a pricing strategy, the same as how we run our other businesses. And they're back to historical levels. And so the vast majority of our growth in that business is volume growth. We're not growing our business because of, or any of our businesses because of pricing being the major strategy. We're growing it because we're providing more value, more products, services to customers. So that volume is growing. That's the same in each of our businesses. And that's an important component of our strategy. So yeah, can we get some price? Yes, but it's at historical levels. And we're excited about the value that we're providing the customers in the first aid, but all of our businesses.
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Kartik Ma56:37
And just to follow up but different topic, just use of AI, kind of where you are in Cintas, more from, you know, is it today more of a cost or is it a benefit or is it neutral?
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Todd Schneider56:51
Great question Kartik, appreciate that. We've been investing in technology for years and we will be doing so, I'm sure in perpetuity. And I'll start with our investment in what I call our rock-solid foundation of SAP and then moving on to then we started investing in data analytics once we had that ability of accessing the data and then algorithms and now machine learning and artificial intelligence which is certainly in the early innings for us but we see opportunity there. So yeah, we're making investments and we're doing so because we think, we're excited about where we think we can take this technology and for it to be easier for our employee partners to do their job and make it easier for customers to do business with us. An example of that is and we talked about with smart truck technology that's not artificial intelligence. But it is certainly that has been important to us and the learnings that we've had there are making it better and better. Garment sharing applications as Jim mentioned, similar, we're getting efficiencies out of our most critical assets and all this makes it for our employee partners to be more successful and productive and to take administrative time out of their day. We also see opportunities with technology and machine learning to direct them where to spend their time. So we think that's important. All this will show up Kartik in, I'll say incremental improvements over many years. But important investments for us to make so that we can get those incremental investments and benefits for many years to come.
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Kartik Ma58:55
Thank you. I appreciate it.
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Todd Schneider58:57
Thank you.
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Operator58:59
Great. And we have run out of time for our question and answer session. So I will turn the call back over to Jared for closing remarks.
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Jared Mattingley59:07
Thank you, Ross, and thank you for joining us this morning. We will issue our first quarter of fiscal 2026 financial results in September. We look forward to speaking with you again at that time. Thank you.
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Operator59:20
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.