Our founders would be rolling over in their graves if they heard that everybody could vote. And why do you want 18-year-olds to vote against well-informed 40-year-olds and cancel their vote? That's dumb.
Your men's interest conflicts with my human rights. You're an anti-suffragette, lady. It's important to women to have their voice. You want to take their voice away.
I can agree with you to a certain extent because see the thing I see with the society is... Yeah. So this, my whole point is that women don't care. That's right. You can't give me duties that women have, just things they're entitled to. Not duties that they have, things they're entitled to.
So, the thing is just like if men can necessarily see this as a bad outcome on society and they have force doctrine on their side, you do realize that that eventually will probably lead to men just stepping in and taking it from you, right? Do you understand that men are capable of doing that? Women are not capable of doing it back because of that.
So, you're always appealing to men. You're always appealing to men to enforce these rights that you so desperately want. And if you say, 'Well, women just don't care. They just don't care about men's interests. We just don't care. You're just useless, useless cogs, which are disposable, right?' What do you think? How do you think the reaction is going to be when you take the strong primate and you tell the strong primate, 'Uh, no, you know, we're just going to do things which are against your interest in the interest of society.' It moves towards authoritarianism. Your view actually moves towards the very thing you don't want.
See, the thing is your men's interest conflicts with my human rights, right? Like the fact that I can't vote, I shouldn't own a property because if I own a property, I should have a right to vote as a woman or as a man because I'm contributing into that society. If you want to go back into like where women are forced to stay home and be taking care of their kids and all that, I think that again the only way men can control women is by force.
But wait, that's not even a good argument. Listen, that's not a good argument. Hang on. Relax. That's not actually a good argument. If your argument, if you had started an argument with me by saying, 'Andrew, I think we should go back to property owners being able to vote, men and women.' I think that's a fine argument, but that's not your actual position. You just said, 'I deserve to be able to vote cuz I own property, right?' Okay. But that's not what you said. What you actually said is everybody deserves the right to vote because they exist. But I don't say that. No, no, no. We don't let all sorts of people vote because the outcomes are bad.
Tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why everyone should vote. Because it doesn't matter who you are. You're still living in the society. You're still contributing to the society. You're still shopping. You're still traveling. How come you cannot?
No. Most people are net drain on society because they take more from the system than they give to the system. Do you understand that?
Malich, one thing is if you ask a question, so like if you're trying to explain something and then you ask him a question, then I kind of have to let him talk. So did you feel like you finished your point there?
No. What I'm saying to you, not you, I'm talking... my whole point here, I am saying that as a society, if we're going to create a society and we're going to call it freedom for everybody, equality for everybody, which I think is how we can... as much as I know that everything cannot be equal, okay, someone's going to get some, but how can you say that even if that person is sucking from the system, it is still part of the system, their opinion still matters whether it is right or not?
No, I don't believe all opinions... it's not contributing to the system. I'm going to answer your question. It's very clear to me that you should not have 18-year-olds nullifying the vote of 40-year-olds who've been participating in the system for twice the amount of years that they've been alive, that they are so politically stupid and they don't understand what's going on in the political process that they can be used as cogs by non-governmental organizations which bribe them. We see this day in and day out. That is not a good system, lady. And why do you want 18-year-olds to vote against well-informed 40-year-olds and cancel their vote? That's dumb. We should never have a system like that. And when you look, all we have to do is look at the outcomes of who could be bribed by non-governmental organizations who sometimes give billions of dollars in kickbacks to politicians and book deals and things like this in assistance for them passing legislation that they want. They bribe portions of the electorate to do this. That's a terrible, terrible system where we were never supposed to have mandatory participation in voting. Our founders would be rolling over in their graves if they heard that everybody could vote. That was never the way the system was set up.
Okay. So, I do agree with you. Maybe we can raise the age. I think we should be able to raise the age once you are out of college and you're actually contributing into the society. You've got a job and stuff. Okay. I can agree with you.
