The Prime Minister Anthony Albanese speaks after a National Cabinet meeting of federal, state and territory leaders discussing the ongoing fuel crisis affecting Australia.
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6:29Are you in discussions with fuel companies about potential taxpayer support to extend diesel capacity of existing refineries or to even build a new one?
9:47Did you want to reflect on him but also mention the Order of Australia medal that he was awarded last week?
11:32What do these contingencies look like and can you flesh out some of the specific triggers for them?
13:41Minister, in terms of states who refuse to sign up to the NDIS reforms, like Queensland holding out on Thriving Kids, would you be prepared to make the extra hospital funding agreed to in January contingent on them agreeing on the NDIS?
Australia remains steady at level two in our national fuel security plan that has been agreed to by the national cabinet. Australia's fuel supply outlook remains secure in the near term. However, we're working hard to prepare for contingencies in the event of supply disruptions in fuel and in fertilizer. I do want to acknowledge the good work of the states and territories in the whole nation working together, but importantly as well Australians who are doing their bit to, as the advertising campaign says, that every little bit helps and people are changing their behavior on a voluntary basis which is one of the reasons why we've seen the supply of petrol in particular go up to 46 days from where it was at, which is higher than it was on February 28 when this conflict began. The longer though that the war goes on, the more significant the implications for Australia will be, just like it's having an impact right around the world. My government will continue to work around the clock to shield Australians from the worst of the impacts. And in doing that, we're working with state and territories. But we're also, of course, working with the private sector, including the purchase or the underwriting of cargos through Export Finance Australia, of which we've now had six cargos of diesel that have had just a little bit over 300 million liters of diesel on their way to Australia as a result of the work that we've done there. And we'll continue to do what we can to see if there are further cargos that are available for purchase in the spot market. One of the discussions that occurred as well was the diversification of where our fuel's coming from. For example, the United States that traditionally has not been a big supplier has supplied about 18% at the moment. Argentina that was very small indeed is now into double figures and we've also been able to secure supply from Algeria. We'll continue to work to diversify where we can get fuel from and the key here is achieving supply. That is our top priority. The reality remains of course that the strait is still closed and it's been closed now for two months. We're in deeply tumultuous and turbulent global times and people are aware of that and can see that that is the case. We are doing what we can to alleviate this issue, whether it be getting additional supply or the decision that we made to cut the fuel excise that is saving people 32 cents in every liter that they purchase. We agreed that we'll meet again in a couple of weeks time. We want to make sure that we continue to be on the same page, that we work together and that that information is provided to states and territories. And I want to thank the premiers and chief ministers for getting together today in the national interest. I'll go to Minister Bowen then we're happy to take questions.
Thanks very much Prime Minister. As the Prime Minister said, a strong and constructive meeting in the national cabinet today where I was able to update on the supply situation as I do each weekend directly to the Australian people. And as the PM said, the fact we now have 46 days worth of petrol in our stocks, which is 10 days more than when the bombing of Iran commenced, shows that while we are facing international headwinds and risks and uncertainties into the medium term, nevertheless, nothing is being left on the field when it comes to ensuring that Australia is very well placed including the EFA purchases the Prime Minister and I announced yesterday. Building on the purchases the Prime Minister announced the week before and further work underway to ensure that we are as well placed as we can be. And that is a good thing because it means that those Australians who are looking at the forward supply and making decisions can know that as well as these things can be forecast, Australia is well placed. Also just on a separate matter, can I just welcome the figures today released by the Australian Energy Market Operator on the renewable energy pipeline. We're building a new energy system in Australia which introduces more of the cheapest form of energy, reduces our emissions but also harnesses those wonderful Australian resources of the wind and the sun to ensure our energy system is as sovereign as it possibly can be. The fact that we now have 67.3 gigawatts of new renewable energy investment in our pipeline which compares to the 73 gigawatts that exists, that's the scale of the pipeline that is being built across the country with more early stage proposals in the AEMO pipeline and more gigawatts having hit the grid actually being connected in the last quarter, all those indicators are up and that's a good thing particularly in relation to batteries. Australia is really leading the world in battery deployment at the moment. Batteries are being deployed at a rapid rate around the world but 10% of all the batteries that were installed in terms of capacity around the world in March were in Australia and we're not 10% of the world's economy, we're not 10% of the world's population but are 10% of the new battery capacity that's being installed. And that's particularly, these AEMO figures are focused on grid scale batteries obviously but also cheaper home batteries being introduced under a policy where so many Australians are reducing their bills each day. We're now at 348,833 cheaper home batteries that have been installed since the 1st of July last year. That shows that Australians with some support from their government are getting on with the job of building an energy system which is in their interests and in the interest of Australia more broadly. Thanks PM.
Are you in discussions with fuel companies about potential taxpayer support to extend diesel capacity of existing refineries or to even build a new one?
No. What we are doing is continuing to concentrate on supply. We're looking of course across the board. Anything that we can do, any constructive proposals, we're open for dialogue. But what we are concentrating on at the moment isn't something that is time lengthy for obvious reasons. What we are doing is concentrating on supply. It is a pity that under the former government four out of the six refineries closed in Australia. It's also unfortunate that they chose to have their reserves in Texas. We reversed that and we had at the beginning of this global crisis we had the strongest reserves we've had in 15 years.
Two questions if that's okay, haven't seen you for a while so you get two. Firstly just on fuel, how you mentioned we're steady at level stage two. How likely is it that we will get to stage three? Are we close to that or where are we on that?
It's certainly not imminent. What we are doing is making sure that we continue though to be straightforward with people which is we are in uncertain times. Some of this is obviously dependent upon how long the war goes for. We're also being upfront to say that if the conflict ends tomorrow and the Strait of Hormuz opens tomorrow, then there is a time lag before the economic consequences of what has happened over the last two months flow through the system. It takes time to clear the strait to make it safe. It will take time for the ships that have been stuck in the Gulf to reach their destination to unload and then to travel back to receive more supply. So there will be a long economic tail here. But what we are doing is making sure as well that people are updated on a regular basis. That's how you build confidence. And it has been a good thing that the spike in demand that we saw at the beginning of this conflict from Easter on has been diminished substantially. So the sort of hoarding that I'm sure that your network like others showed utes and vans turning up at petrol stations and being filled up with jerry cans. That not only is not a sensible thing to do and the right thing to do, it's also potentially a dangerous thing to do to have a garage full of petrol rather than of toilet paper or very different products.
Just sorry. James Valentine has passed away. Much loved ABC presenter. Did you want to reflect on him but also mention the Order of Australia medal that he was awarded last week?
Yeah. Well, James Valentine was a much loved Australian, a musician who then went into broadcasting and was a warm, friendly and comforting voice. He is someone who was engaging to talk with and who Australians listened to and trusted. And he had a long and distinguished career. And I think right across the media world today will be mourning James Valentine as will people who, his family, his friends and particularly the family at the ABC. And James Valentine was someone who was always very good to talk with. He listened, he put forward his views. He was entertaining and he was uplifting as well which is why his recent health issues that he's gone through are so devastating for all those who knew him and loved him. He quite rightly received an Order of Australia award. He was someone who was most deserving of it. And today I just express my sympathy to his family and his many many friends and those who never met him but felt like they knew him because of the way that he engaged with them through the radio.
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Albanese, A. (2026, April 22). IN FULL: Anthony Albanese speaks after National Cabinet meeting on fuel security | ABC NEWS [Interview transcript]. ABC News (Australia). CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/967705/
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Anthony Albanese. "IN FULL: Anthony Albanese speaks after National Cabinet meeting on fuel security | ABC NEWS." ABC News (Australia), 22 Apr. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/967705/.
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