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Thomas Peterffy
Founder & Chairman, Interactive Brokers Group

S&P could fall to 3,000 as global demographic crisis takes hold, says Thomas Peterffy

🎥 Dec 23, 2022 📺 CNBC Television ⏱ 3m 👁 38147 views
Thomas Peterffy, Interactive Brokers founder and chairman, joins 'Squawk on the Street' to discuss how retail traders are positioned right now, how much pain there's been for Interactive Broker's clients and more. For access to live and exclusive video from CNBC subscribe to CNBC PRO: https://cnb.cx/2NGeIvi » Subscribe to CNBC TV: https://cnb.cx/SubscribeCNBCtelevision » Subscribe to CNBC: https://cnb.cx/SubscribeCNBC Turn to CNBC TV for the latest stock market news and analysis. From market futures to live price updates CNBC is the leader in business news worldwide. Connect with CNBC News...
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About Thomas Peterffy

Thomas Peterffy, founder and chairman of Interactive Brokers, has recently discussed the role of prediction markets and artificial intelligence in finance. In podcast appearances, he argued that prediction markets are "incredibly important" for gauging consensus on critical questions such as the rate of AI adoption and potential universal basic income. He stated that AI will change daily life "very very substantially and very very soon," and said that addressing investment questions "with less emotions and more reasoning is always advisable." Peterffy also said that advisors on Interactive Brokers' platform have outperformed the S&P 500 index by 267% over three years, attributing this partly to the firm's execution quality. On the topic of insider trading, Peterffy expressed support for eliminating rules against it, stating, "I would like all the information out there as soon as it's available... as a society, we're better off knowing as soon as possible anything that is knowable." He also identified a regulatory challenge for prediction markets, noting that many questions about specific companies cannot be offered because it is unclear whether they would be classified as securities or commodities, and said "this quagmire would have to be cleaned up." Peterffy indicated that Interactive Brokers plans to consolidate prediction market feeds and structure contracts to be fungible across platforms where possible.

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Transcript (8 segments)
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Interviewer0:01
Gains. Joining us is Interactive Brokers founder and chairman Thomas Peterffy. It's great to have you here. With this difficult market this year, this month, how are retail traders positioned right now?
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Thomas Peterffy0:17
Wall Street traders have made their choices. They either decided to ride out the coming down market or hedge their portfolios or liquidated. They keep their money in their brokerage accounts. Interactive Brokers is paying 3.88% on cash.
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Interviewer0:40
In other words, keep it in the Interactive Brokers account. Shameless plug. It's certainly helped your business. How much pain has there been for your clients?
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Thomas Peterffy0:59
Say again, please?
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Interviewer1:00
How much pain has there been for your clients?
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Thomas Peterffy1:02
Well, most of our clients have hedged earlier on, and they realize that we are looking at a decade where inflation rates over 4%, the Fed tried to fight it but eventually recognized the causes are beyond their control, and they are basically big globalization will continue at a faster rate as the U.S. is giving up control as police of the world, geopolitical tensions will continue to rise, chip interest rates will rise or become unavailable. The demand for ESG spending by corporations will keep increasing. Inflation will continue to pick up as the availability of skilled workers will decrease as baby boomers are leaving the workforce in increasing numbers. So we are in a global demographic crisis. They are being replaced by young, less educated people in countries. Rising debt service, rising interest rates, and so I expect the market to fall to around 3,000. And the only hope out of this situation is scientific advancements, the economy will grow out of its increasing debt burden.
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Interviewer2:44
So it sounds like you think -- it sounds like you think in the shorter term that investors are more focused on the back drop of earnings rather than whether or not this inflation accelerates or the Fed pauses.
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Thomas Peterffy2:59
Well, earnings are -- we know that earnings will be lower in the coming quarters, right. So, you know, I think that the only thing you can do is to try to sell individual stocks where you think you can have a good chance of doing some option spread.