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Vitalik Buterin on macroeconomics

From DAPPCON 2025: Fireside Chat - Vitalik Buterin, Martin Koppelmann, Joe Lubin, Robin Hanson · · Dappcon Berlin

“the world is cracking up. We're at the end of a debt and generational super cycle stress and how super cycle we are smashing up against the wall. There's too much debt in the system. It is clear to the world that the United States is going to reformat trade relationships, military relationships. The US is paying 25% of its budget in interest more than its military budget.”

Vitalik Buterin
Cofounder, Ethereum
Policy Impact macroeconomicsUS debtgeopolitics

On , Vitalik Buterin, Cofounder at Ethereum, spoke about macroeconomics during DAPPCON 2025: Fireside Chat - Vitalik Buterin, Martin Koppelmann, Joe Lubin, Robin Hanson on Dappcon Berlin.

DAPPCON 2025: Fireside Chat - Vitalik Buterin, Martin Koppelmann, Joe Lubin, Robin Hanson
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DAPPCON 2025: Fireside Chat - Vitalik Buterin, Martin Koppelmann, Joe Lubin, Robin Hanson
Dappcon Berlin
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Vitalik Buterin

About Vitalik Buterin

Cofounder · Ethereum

Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum, has been speaking at multiple events in 2026 about the intersection of AI and blockchain, Ethereum's protocol roadmap, and the concept of "sanctuary technology." At ETHMumbai in March, Buterin discussed the importance of CROPS (Censorship Resistant, Open Source, Private, Secure) AI, arguing that while local and open-weights AI models have improved significantly, the mainstream open-source AI ecosystem "by default does not care about" privacy and security. He expressed hope that Ethereum could become the ecosystem that creates safe, private AI packages. In a May interview with OKX Wallet, Buterin described Ethereum's role in the AI agent era as a "public billboard" and "on-chain computation layer" for multi-party coordination, rather than a traditional operating system. He noted that Ethereum will need stronger privacy, verifiable security, and minimal identity disclosure as AI agents interact on-chain at scale. In a May appearance on MTS Live, Buterin contrasted crypto's vision of safety with centralized alternatives, stating that "the vision of safety that we're competing with is basically let's trust the uncle in the sky" in exchange for privacy and agency. He reflected on his personal evolution from "living on autopilot" to actively shaping technology that enables human agency. In separate talks in Hong Kong and elsewhere, Buterin outlined Ethereum's five-year roadmap, emphasizing that Ethereum is "not meant to be the fastest chain" but rather "the secure chain, the decentralized chain, the chain that you can rely on." He highlighted plans to transition to ZK-EVMs as the primary validation method by 2028, improvements in quantum safety, and proposed EIPs including account abstraction (EIP-8141) to support smart contract wallets and privacy protocols. Buterin stated that Ethereum needs to "pass the walk away test," remaining reliable even if no core developers remain.

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