#215 – Wojciech Zaremba: OpenAI Codex, GPT-3, Robotics, and the Future of AI
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Search every verified Wojciech Zaremba interview, podcast appearance, and on-the-record quote — each transcript cross-checked by AI and human review to confirm speaker identity. Wojciech Zaremba, co-founder of OpenAI and head of language and code generation teams, discussed the iterative deployment of AI systems in a recent podcast appearance. He stated that deploying slightly better versions of models and allowing the public to probe them helps reveal fundamental issues. Zaremba also expressed concerns about artificial general intelligence (AGI) and advocated for this gradual approach to avoid unforeseen problems. Zaremba described three levers—compute, algorithms, and data—that he believes are multiplicative in building intelligent systems. He commented on capitalism’s ability to assign monetary value to activities but noted that the system lacks assigned costs for things like clean air or freedom from distraction, allowing corporations to "pollute them for free."
“I think that there exist very powerful system to describe what we value that's capitalism it assigns actually monetary values to various activities at the moment The problem in the current system is that there are some things which we value there is no cost assigned to it. So even though we value clean air or maybe we...”
“I believe that actually we are in the game where there is there are actually frankly three levers. There is compute, there are algorithms and there is data. And if we want to build intelligent systems, we have to pull all three levers and they are actually multiplicative.”
“AGI was a dirty word — people said it will take decades to create, but for me there was a sense that this is inevitable.”
“This framing of creating a 'humanity-loving' AI kind of makes sense, but it also turns out to be somewhat problematic — for example, if a cigarette-selling company asks the model to revise their emails, should the model refuse because it's trying to be 'humanity-loving'?”
“Our mission at OpenAI in both the nonprofit and our new PBC is to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity. As we get closer to building this, we have new insights into what that is going to mean.”
“We believe deep learning systems are less than a decade away from super intelligence, which could be smarter than all of us on many critical axes.”
“The potential to accelerate scientific discovery and technological development is perhaps the most significant long-term impact of AI, fundamentally changing the pace of progress.”
“We are making plans to get AI research interns capable of accelerating our research by September next year, and fully automated AI researchers by March 2028.”
“Safety and alignment are critical as we develop increasingly capable models, with value alignment being the most important long-term safety challenge.”
“We see AI as a platform that others will build upon, aiming to create an AI cloud where AI is embedded into many services, not just in ChatGPT.”
“We are committed to reducing the cost of AI infrastructure significantly, aiming to create a factory capable of producing 1 gigawatt of compute per week at a much lower cost.”
“Transparency about our internal goals and timelines for developing powerful AI systems is crucial, even if we may be wrong about some dates.”
“We believe that collaboration across labs on safety standards and research is essential, especially before entering recursive self-improvement phases.”
“The future of AI could see models that make small discoveries by 2026, larger breakthroughs by 2028, and transformative advances by 2030 or 2032.”
“Let's assume we have a man who is trying to maximize profits on the stock market. But at the same time, we would like him to obey the law. And now from the perspective of this guy who plays on the stock exchange, it may be that he breaks this law a little bit and then he would be able to earn a little more.”
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