Cofounder, Pendo
Search every verified Eric Boduch interview, podcast appearance, and on-the-record quote β each transcript cross-checked by AI and human review to confirm speaker identity. Eric Boduch, cofounder of Pendo, appeared on the podcast *The Side Quest* on May 5, 2026, where he discussed his venture studio 24 and up. He described the studio as an "unpaid co-founder" that helps entrepreneurs prototype, test ideas, build initial products, find design partners and customers, and raise funding over a 24-month period. During the interview, Boduch offered several observations about the current startup landscape. He stated that "AI has thrown everything up" and that pattern matching, which was important in the "golden era of SaaS," can now be a "big negative." He also argued that "it's the golden age of product management," contrary to claims that AI signals the end of the role. Additionally, Boduch said that "design and product become more of a bottleneck than engineering," noting that tasks that once took six months can now be done in a day or two, shifting the bottleneck away from writing code.
“We're working on a little we're working on on kind of our our third full year of of 24 and up. Now uh what 24 and up is a venture studio. So we co-create companies with entrepreneurs. So think of us as an unpaid co-founder. It's a good way to think about it. most co-founders basically. Well, even after they have fundin...”
“I think you know I'm trying to think if there's more on the west co I mean there's more venture on the west coast and therefore I think there's probably more venture studio more startups and yeah proportionally though I I think we're about you know normal. I think there is another one here or maybe a small one or small...”
“I think also I guess on that pattern matching note um so much of the uncertainty now is I mean the the uncertainty is everywhere. I feel like investors and founders are flailing a little bit in the sense of like what what are we tethering ourselves to like what are the business metrics? What are like for example the eq...”
“I think a lot of people early on with AI are like we're at the death of the product manager. I'm like no absolutely not. I like the golden age of product management. Yeah. So to that end, is super important. Product management skills super important.”
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