85-year-old Charles Koch on why he continues to work
85-year-old Charles Koch tells Mike Allen on “Axios on HBO” why he continues to work: “What keeps me going is, oh, I think I can ...
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Search every verified Charlie Koch interview, podcast appearance, and on-the-record quote — each transcript cross-checked by AI and human review to confirm speaker identity. In a September 2021 interview on “Axios on HBO,” 85-year-old Charles Koch discussed his reasons for continuing to work. Koch said he is motivated by a desire to contribute each day, stating, “What keeps me going is, ‘oh I think I can contribute today.’” He described his daily routine of waking before 6:00 a.m. and arriving at the office by 7:00 a.m., and said he works out for about an hour and a half every afternoon or evening. Koch attributed his drive to finding meaning in life, citing Viktor Frankl and Abraham Maslow, and said he dedicates himself to learning and applying principles daily. Koch also commented on retirement, saying that people who “retired and just fool around” would not sustain him, adding, “I wouldn’t last a year. I’d been dead long ago.” He emphasized the importance of working both mind and body, referencing his alma mater MIT’s motto “mind and hand.”
“Well, the first thing as one of my heroes, Viktor Frankl, put it, ever more people have the means to live, but more meaning for live for. The way you do it is have meaning in your life.”
“And the way you have meaning in your life is you discover your gift. And you follow Maslow — what you can be, you must be. And whatever your nature calls you to be, you dedicate yourself to that.”
“So I've dedicated my life myself to that. To learning every day, trying to find new principles every day, searching forever. How to better apply the principles we are applying. And every day, try to improve.”
“I get up, usually a little before 6:00. Say 5:45. Try to get to the office by 7. And what keeps me going is, 'oh I think I can contribute today.'”
85-year-old Charles Koch tells Mike Allen on “Axios on HBO” why he continues to work: “What keeps me going is, oh, I think I can ...
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