CTBUH 2012 Shanghai Congress - O'Connor, "Considerations for Refuge Areas in Tall Buildings"
September 21, 2012. Shanghai, China. Within the last two decades, concentrating all or many occupants from many floors of a tallΒ ...
Vice President of Legal Services, Corvel
Search every verified Sharon O'connor interview, podcast appearance, and on-the-record quote β each transcript cross-checked by AI and human review to confirm speaker identity. Sharon O'Connor, Vice President of Legal Services at Corvel, presented at the 2012 CTBUH Shanghai Congress on considerations for refuge areas in tall buildings. She discussed the financial and sustainability impacts of refuge floors, noting costs such as additional construction time, cleaning, HVAC, loss of efficiency, and impacts on leasing plans. O'Connor suggested that in fully sprinklered buildings, most floors could serve as refuge space, and advocated for redirecting cost savings from not building refuge floors toward sprinkler system reliability, testing, and maintenance. She described sprinklers as an "on-demand firefighter" and emphasized the need for regular maintenance to ensure reliability. O'Connor also raised concerns about human behavior in fires, including potential overcrowding on refuge floors and the risk of moving occupants to a refuge floor directly above a fire. She reported feedback from her fire safety working group that people often ignore refuge floors and do not use them. Additionally, she characterized helicopter evacuation from rooftops as a "very high-risk strategy," citing obstacles such as thick smoke, flight safety, weather, turbulence, and the risk of helicopter crashes in urban settings.
“As we go through my presentation and I talk about refuges, think about the impact of Refuge areas, particularly Refuge floors, on the financial model for these buildings and the sustainability aspects of these buildings.”
“One of the big things we see, and again this goes back to the financial models for tall buildings, is what are the costs associated with these Refuge floors? There's additional construction time, cleaning and HVAC costs, loss of efficiency, and impact on the potential leasing plan for the building.”
“If you have a fully sprinkler building, most if not all floors can serve as Refuge space. And also, if you're going to institute Refuge floors in buildings, can we really, in terms of the financial model and sustainability of tall buildings, have some kind of use for those spaces rather than them sitting there as empty...”
“What we think is more important to do is take the cost savings by not putting Refuge floors in the buildings and focus on sprinkler system reliability, testing, and maintenance. Put your money to that because if the sprinkler can be like the on-demand firefighter there to take care of that fire and put it out, we will...”
September 21, 2012. Shanghai, China. Within the last two decades, concentrating all or many occupants from many floors of a tallΒ ...
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