Fireside Q&A -- Charles H. Moore -- 2025-11-16
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Chief Executive Officer, President & Director, Tyler
Search every verified H. Moore interview, podcast appearance, and on-the-record quote โ each transcript cross-checked by AI and human review to confirm speaker identity. In a November 2025 fireside chat, Charles H. Moore stated that his software Color Forth "has now finished" after 25 years, as it stopped working following Windows 10 and 11 updates. He said he spent weeks troubleshooting the issue with Microsoft's Copilot but was unable to resolve crashes related to graphics routines. Moore said he is open to open-sourcing the implementation but noted it is coded in assembler and "unreadable." He expressed a preference for returning to bare-metal programming and using his own hardware rather than switching to other operating systems. In an August 2022 interview on CNBC, Moore discussed Tyler Technologies' employment practices. He said the company was seeing "boomerangs"โemployees who left and later returnedโbecause they "learned the grass is not always greener on the other side." Moore noted that Tyler Technologies had not laid off employees during the Great Recession or the COVID-19 pandemic, and described the company as "a very stable employer." He said the company had about 7,500 employees across roughly 80 offices and used a flexible hybrid work model.
“Color forth has now finished. After 25 years of doing great things with it, I spent the last weeks trying to make it work on Windows 10 and 11, but it crashes when trying to put an image on the screen. Nothing I've tried has fixed the issue, and I am at a standstill until I figure out what went wrong.”
“I've been working with Copilot to troubleshoot why color forth stopped working after Windows updates, but it appears that the core issue is with the graphics routines that transfer images to the GPU, which just don't work anymore. This seems to be related to changes in Windows' graphical libraries.”
“The foundation of my software needs to be directly connected to hardware, not through operating systems, which I find increasingly unreliable for low-level programming. I would prefer to go back to bare-metal programming or use native x86 hardware, as I have a supply of old computers ready.”
“The only reasonable option right now is to wait for inspiration to fix color forth, as all my efforts to troubleshoot have failed. Itโs a complete standstill until I understand what changed in Windows or graphics libraries.”
“Iโve been using my own software for 50 years, and I prefer to stay with my own operating system and hardware, rather than switching to Linux or Raspberry Pi, because I trust my own code and hardware design.”
“The core idea of color forth was my character set and drawing routines, which I still believe are beautiful and scalable, but without something to do with it, I have no current use for it. The neatness of the character routines was my favorite part.”
“I think the main lesson from my experience is that languages should stay bootstrappable from other sources. Once the original tools are gone, the process cannot be easily repeated, which is why some languages keep their original bootstrapping tools.”
“Iโve learned a lot about Copilot recently; it doesn't suggest code but responds to my suggestions, and it can't imagine problems with Windows because it doesn't understand the context. Large language models don't know anything about the specifics of Forth or hardware.”
“Despite the issues, I am open to open-sourcing my current implementation of color forth, but it's coded in assembler and unreadable, making it difficult to share or transfer in a usable form. This is a dilemma I face with my software.”
“I believe that the future of my software is uncertain, and I have no specific plans. I might wait for inspiration or move on to other projects, but I still have a supply of old hardware and a passion for low-level programming.”
“We are starting to see a number of people who have left and coming back โ we call them boomerangs โ and what we're seeing is they've learned the grass is not always greener on the other side and that Tyler is a pretty good place for our employees.”
“Absolutely. We've been growing pretty steadily over the last 24 years, and I think that's one of the stories that resonates both with our current employees as well as our future employees โ our growth and growth leads to opportunities.”
“We're a very stable employer โ during the Great Recession, we didn't lay anybody off, during COVID, didn't lay anybody off. Something we're very proud of, and something we talk a lot about with our employees.”
“While our headquarters are in Texas, we're actually all around the country. We're pushing close to 7,500 employees โ we've got about 80 offices all over the place.”
“With hybrid work, you don't necessarily have to be in the location, and so one of the more competitive factors we're having are even people from larger cities trying to make moves on people in more mid-sized towns and things like that where we have a lot of our offices.”
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