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Jay Bhattacharya
Director (18th Director of NIH), National Institutes of Health

LIVE: NIH Director Dr. Jay Bhattacharya Testifies Before The Senate

📅 Jun 01, 2026 Forbes Breaking News 106 MIN 138 SEGMENTS · 18 SPEAKERS
National Institutes of Health Director Dr. Jay Bhattacharya testifies before the Senate Appropriations Committee. Stay Connected ...

What Jay Bhattacharya said

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NIH Director Jay Bhattacharya testified before the Senate, emphasizing NIH's role in the Make America Healthy Again initiative, focusing on chronic disease, nutrition, and prevention. He highlighted progress in HIV prevention with lenacapavir, CRISPR-based cures for sickle cell anemia, and AI tools for clinical trial matching. Bhattacharya committed to convening a committee to reform indirect cost funding, proposing to delink facility support from grant awards to broaden geographic distribution. He defended the NIH's intramural funding process for a universal flu vaccine project, rejecting claims of bypassing peer review. He affirmed support for studying health disparities and the IDEA program, and committed to addressing Hawaii's grant delay and staffing the Native Hawaiian health office. He declined to directly answer questions on budget cuts and vaping policy, deferring to NIH's research role. He also discussed the Ebola response, pediatric trials, and early-career investigator support.

Key takeaways

  1. Bhattacharya committed to convening a committee to propose delinking facility support from grant awards to allow more open competition for NIH facilities money.
  2. He defended the $100 million intramural award for a universal flu vaccine project, stating it followed normal NIH processes and was not subject to peer review.
  3. He affirmed NIH's commitment to studying health disparities, including biological differences, and stated this is not DEI research.
  4. He committed to looking into Hawaii's $100 million AI cancer research grant stuck in administrative review and to staffing up the Native Hawaiian health research office.
  5. He said NIH is committed to the IDEA program and reforming facility funding to broaden research capacity beyond top 20 institutions.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
60% share of daily caloric intake from ultra-processed foods metric 21:53
6 to 12 months duration of protection from a single lenacapavir injection metric 21:53
$100 million new NIH investments to validate key findings commitment 21:53
20 institutions institutions receiving about a third of NIH facility support metric 30:48
23 states states with difficulty getting NIH funding metric 1:17:30

Chapters

  1. 0:00Opening statement on NIH priorities
  2. 30:48Indirect cost reform proposal
  3. 37:10Universal flu vaccine funding dispute
  4. 51:06Vaping and children's health
  5. 58:45CMV screening and research
  6. 1:09:50Rural cancer center support
  7. 1:12:32Health disparities and minority health
  8. 1:17:30IDEA program and research capacity
  9. 1:23:57Budget cuts and defense spending
  10. 1:39:20Ebola response and Fogarty Center

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 37:10Bhattacharya, will you commit to providing this subcommittee with the contracts that awarded that funding?
  2. 38:50Was there an open fair transparent call for proposals for this funding?
  3. 40:05Did Secretary Kennedy or his special assistant direct NIH to award this funding to these two investigators?
  4. 51:27Do you see any connection between fruit-flavored vaping and children being attracted to it?
  5. 52:42And we're going to look the other way as this administration says, 'Let's get have some more fruit flavors on hand for kids to dabble in and to try to make a decision.' Does this make sense to you?
  6. 54:40Hodes, tell me what that means as far as what's going to happen as a result of that?
  7. 1:10:44Do I have your commitment to unstick this decision as soon as possible?
  8. 1:11:59Do you still agree that we should keep studying these disparities?
  9. 1:16:18... program that it's had on strengthening research capacity, improving health outcomes in these states, and how NIH can continue to ensure that the benefits of scientific innovation and economic growth reach communities across the heartland?
  10. 1:24:29Well, you didn't really answer the question and I know why, but I just for all of us to understand, we're being asked to cut NIH by $6 billion. Why?
  11. 1:29:09Are you aware that last year's NIH pediatric trial network received only part of its funding?
  12. 1:40:22Do you know where they are these days?
Unknown 1:59 ↗
Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm.
Shelley Moore Capito 12:03 ↗
Well, good morning and I want to welcome everyone to our hearing. I'm going to give an abbreviated statement and I will add more into the record. I want to thank Dr. Volkow and all of his colleagues for joining us this morning. This is an important opportunity after to look at the NIH budget from last year to see how we can understand priorities for 2027. I think all of us care a lot about biomedical research. It's long been a bicameral and bipartisan priority and I'm proud of the work that we did last year where we secured an additional $415 million for NIH funding. Areas of concern for me and those at the dais know this are things we're ground zero for the opioid epidemic in West Virginia communities. We still have some of the highest rates of overdose deaths but we're making positive strides as we are across the country. Some of the CDC data shows a decrease and I want to thank Dr. Volkow for coming to West Virginia and coming back maybe to West Virginia for visiting. We just had Dr. Hotez there as well and we're really pleased because of what's going on at the Rockefeller Neuroscience Institute. I think he was pretty wowed to see what WV is doing in the innovative and groundbreaking work that we're doing there. As a child of two parents who had Alzheimer's, I don't want to just find ways to keep people in a steady state. I want to find ways to cure, and I think that's what the NIH is all about. So, one other area of interest for me is the Childhood Cancer STAR Act. I did that with Senator Reed. So, Dr. Latty, thank you for coming to my office and looking forward to hearing about how you're going to grow our clinical trials in that area. So, with that, I'm going to go ahead and turn to Senator Baldwin for her opening statement. Thank you.
Tammy Baldwin 14:00 ↗
Thank you, Chair Capito, and I want to welcome Dr. Bhattacharya and the institute and center directors here today. I also want to note that the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases was slated to testify, but stepped down from his position. Other top officials at NIAID have also reportedly been reassigned and forced out of their positions in the midst of an emerging Ebola outbreak. We have a leadership vacuum at the world's premier infectious disease institute and across our health agencies. This is of great concern, and that of course is in addition to the unprecedented termination and forcing out of thousands of career scientists across the NIH as part of this administration's anti-science and frankly anti-vaccine bent. Over the past 16 months, the Trump administration has waged war on science. And I'm not talking about isolated policy disputes or partisan disagreements. I'm talking about systemic, systematic dismantling of long-standing research programs and the deliberate erosion of research institutions that make America the global leader in biomedical innovation. Across the country, researchers, universities, cancer centers, children's hospitals, and patients are experiencing disruptions because this administration has thrown NIH into chaos. They have terminated over 5,000 NIH grants, slashed nearly a quarter of the NIH workforce, and cut the number of new research grants by more than 2,000 or 22%. That cut was largely due to a policy that the OMB director cooked up that requires NIH to expand multi-year funding, forcing the entire cost of a multi-year grant to be paid in advance. This wasn't based on science or boosting the discovery of new treatments and cures. This was a political decision. And as a result, NIH spent $2.5 billion more on multi-year funded grants in fiscal year 2025 than it did the year before, an unprecedented amount. And what that means is that $2.5 billion was locked away in bank accounts for future years' expenditures that can't be spent on research now or today. That's $2.5 billion that could have funded over 2,000 more research grants. Each one a shot we didn't take at discovering the next medical breakthrough. There is simply no reason to do this. All it does is dramatically reduce the number of NIH grants funded. Take cancer research. Last year, the National Cancer Institute funded 334 or 21% fewer new research grants. That's 334 fewer opportunities to discover new cancer treatments and cures. An untold number of patients and families that won't benefit from this research. And this was the case across the NIH. The National Institutes on Aging, the primary funder of Alzheimer's disease research, funded 438 or 33% fewer grants last year. That's not creating stability for researchers, it's kicking the chair out from under them. I pushed hard to limit multi-year funding in our fiscal year 2026 bill. And although we included a provision that prevented the administration from doing even worse damage, I was disappointed that we weren't able to do more to stop it. This chaos has ramifications across the country. Hiring freezes are hollowing out research labs and forcing institutions to rescind job offers to young scientists. Clinical trials are being canceled or postponed. For decades, NIH funding decisions were guided by scientific expertise and independent peer review, as they should be. Now, political appointees and ideological screening decide which grants get funded. Researchers are spending more time trying to decipher shifting political priorities than finding treatments and cures. Groundbreaking research is being stifled. Notices of funding opportunities that NIH uses to solicit research on specific topics are down by 90%. These specialized funding calls are necessary for type 1 diabetes research, expanded access for ALS, and cancer, and HIV research. Even after this committee provided $415 million in increased funds for NIH in this fiscal year, the White House delayed getting that money out the door and left NIH unable to fund research for 40 days. I can't comprehend why this administration is so hell-bent on sabotaging the life-saving research NIH supports, but they are doing so at every turn. What concerns me most is that this damage will take years, if not decades, to undo because the cost is so much higher than lab closures, canceled clinical trials, or young investigators leaving science. The cost will be fewer treatments and cures, lost loved ones, and an entire generation of scientists gone. Congress should do more to stop this administration from what they're doing to our biomedical research enterprise. I've certainly been pushing to do that. But Congress also needs to get serious again about running a budget and appropriations process that truly allows us to prioritize biomedical research. From 2017 to 2023, we provided meaningful increases for NIH and NIH awarded more grants each of those years. But that progress has stalled. Republicans' insistence on squeezing and cutting non-defense funding has meant NIH funding hasn't kept up with rising research costs. This, combined with misguided administration policies like multi-year funding, will mean that NIH will award fewer research grants this year than any year since 2017. Meanwhile, the president is asking for 1.5 trillion dollars, an increase of 450 billion dollars or 42% for defense spending. If we can find additional funding for bombs, we should be able to find additional funding for cancer research. We need meaningful increases in non-defense funding to be able to do that, and that's what I will be pushing forward during the fiscal year 2027 appropriations process so that scientists can discover the next breakthrough and families can have hope for new treatments and cures. Thank you.
Shelley Moore Capito 21:45 ↗
Welcome, Dr. Bhattacharya. We will welcome you for your 5-minute opening statements before we go to questions. Thank you.
Jay Bhattacharya 21:53 ↗
Chairwoman and Ranking Member Baldwin and distinguished members of the subcommittee, it's an honor to appear before you again to discuss the work that's being done at the National Institutes of Health. NIH's mission is to turn scientific discovery into better health outcomes and longer life for the American people. It's central to the Make America Healthy Again initiative. The NIH plays a leading role in confronting the chronic disease crisis, advancing rigorous nutrition science, prioritizing prevention, and so much more. Chronic disease remains the leading cause of death and disability in the United States, driving most healthcare costs and affecting millions of Americans. NIH is intensifying investment in research that identifies the root cause of these conditions, enables earlier, more effective interventions, including studies that integrate genetics, behavior, environment, and diet. Diet is a major driver of chronic disease risk, yet critical gaps remain in understanding how specific foods affect health. Ultra-processed foods now account for about 60% of daily caloric intake with growing links with obesity and metabolic conditions. To this, NIH is supporting multi-disciplinary research, advancing targeted interventions to address chronic disease at its source, so we can make America healthy again. The NIH continues to deliver measurable progress by building on decades of foundational science. Our sustained investment in basic research is resulting in transformative clinical advances across multiple areas of medicine. In 2019, President Trump announced the Ending the HIV Epidemic Initiative, predicting that we could essentially eliminate HIV in the United States by 2030. Decades of NIH investments in basic science laid the groundwork for drugs like lenacapavir, a long-acting antiretroviral agent. A single injection lasting 6 to 12 months offers near total protection against HIV acquisition. Together with other antiretrovirals also supported by NIH research, this provides a credible pathway for ending HIV transmission in the United States in coming years. Gene-based therapies have never shown more promise than they do now. CRISPR-based gene editing has led to not just one, but two treatments that can cure sickle cell anemia, a disease long thought untreatable. NIH-funded researchers built on this same platform to deliver personalized therapy to an infant with a rare and previously fatal condition, baby KJ. Enabled by the NIH Common Fund, this treatment edited genes directly in the liver to correct a lethal mutation, so that baby KJ will live a long and healthy life. NIH is harnessing advances in artificial intelligence and data science. For example, NIH-supported researchers recently developed AI tools to match patients to clinical trials more efficiently, reducing the barriers to participation and accelerating access to potentially life-saving therapies. NIH is advancing partnerships to expand the frontiers of biomedical science. We're proud to work with NASA on the Artemis 2 mission for the Avatar project, which uses cells from astronauts to create organs-on-a-chip biosystems to model how deep space radiation and microgravity affect human biology. You may be asking how this helps the average American. Well, microgravity reveals aging-related changes in cardiovascular, immune, and musculoskeletal systems, and this work informs treatment for chronic diseases here on Earth. While innovation is critical, affordability remains essential. Drug repurposing is a powerful lever to reduce the cost and accelerate access to this new technology. Testing FDA-approved drugs for new indications can happen faster and with less risk than for new drugs. NIH-supported studies suggest a shingles vaccine called Zostavax may reduce dementia risk, and my colleagues at the National Institute of Aging are organizing a round table on this. Terazosin, long used for benign prostatic hyperplasia, shows potential on Parkinson's disease. While more research is needed, this approach allows us to deliver interventions more cost-effectively while maintaining scientific rigor. We're improving how science is conducted and funded. NIH is advancing a coordinated agency-wide effort to improve rigor, replication, and reproducibility, including the Common Fund Replication Initiative and new investments of approximately $100 million to validate key findings. I'm grateful to Congress for making that possible. These efforts ensure that NIH-supported science is reliable, generalizable, and ready to inform clinical care. The NIH fosters innovation by supporting a balanced research portfolio. Through a unified funding strategy, the NIH is strengthening its ability to curate portfolios that span the full spectrum of scientific approaches and align with national priorities. We're working to broaden the geographic scope of funding, strengthening research capacity in institutions across the country, while expanding the use of research models to improve translatability, responsibly reducing animal use when appropriate. Let me just finish with this. The strength of American biomedical research relies on its rigor, transparency, and its early-stage investigators. Its ability to deliver durable results. Our role as careful stewards of resources entrusted to us ensures that every taxpayer dollar produces reliable knowledge, produces measurable health gains, and has a lasting public benefit. We remain committed to scientific excellence and to improving the health of all Americans. Thank you. I look forward to your questions.
Shelley Moore Capito 27:24 ↗
Thank you very much, and we I will now turn to the chair of the full committee, Senator Collins, for several minutes for a statement or questions or whatever she whatever she can have whatever she wants.
Susan Collins 27:36 ↗
I like that attitude.
Shelley Moore Capito 27:40 ↗
I'm the one who said it.
Susan Collins 27:43 ↗
Thank you so much, Madam Chair. First of all, let me welcome all of you this morning. I have worked so closely with many of the members of this panel and admire your dedication to improving the health of the American people. There are, however, some budget issues that I find to be inexplicable in some ways, and I do want to discuss some of those with you today. In fiscal year 2025, the NIH awarded more than $120 million in grants and contracts to entities in my home state of Maine. This funding directly supported 1,378 jobs and more than $280 million in economic activity. I mention that because there is an economic impact to the research that we're doing, as well as an impact on the health and well-being of Americans. This funding has also led to very exciting developments such as a clinical trial for a new Lyme disease vaccine and another clinical trial investigating how GLP-1 drugs could be used to treat long COVID. Really exciting developments. Breakthroughs like these can only be sustained if research institutions are able to cover this cost. Yet, the administration's budget request once again proposes a 15% arbitrary across-the-board cap for indirect research costs after Congress specifically blocked a similar proposal last year. Such a cap would negatively affect cutting-edge research happening at universities, nonprofit laboratories, medical centers around the country, and undermine the foundation of our nation's global leadership in biomedical research and technological innovation. Doctor, we discussed the FAIR model and other alternatives last year to have more accountability, increase transparency on indirect costs that are funded with taxpayer dollars. I would like to ask you whether you have a specific proposal for improving the current indirect cost system without adopting this one-size-fits-all, arbitrary, very harmful cap across the board.
Jay Bhattacharya 30:48 ↗
Senator, we absolutely remain committed to making sure that the research institutions of this country receive the support that they need to have the success that you described. I'm really grateful that you started with the examples of potential vaccine for Lyme disease, GLP-1s for so many different uses, and so much more. The key thing that I'd love to have happen and we're going to commit to convene a committee of my advisory committee directors so that we can discuss this openly and propose to delink the way to allow competition, free and open competition for these facilities money the NIH has for institutions. The key idea is that right now, in order for Maine and other places to win the facility support, you have to have excellent scientists that win the grants. And linked to that is the facilities money. But, in order to have people win the grants in the first place, you have to attract the great scientists to your facility. You have to have great facilities. This Catch-22 guarantees that our investments in institutions will be concentrated. 20 institutions get about a third of our facility support. We need to fix that. And I'd love to work with you all to delink this connection and then allow more open competition for the facilities money by places like Maine, like Kansas, like I've visited so many great institutions across the country where there are so many great scientists. We need to make it easier to build up facilities. NIH is like seed money for these places. Once we invest, you get other foundations investing as well. And I want to work with you to launch a renaissance in biomedical research across the country where we'll have not just a couple of super biomedical hubs, but everywhere across the country where there are amazing scientific ideas, people should be able to get support for it. Thank you.
Susan Collins 33:07 ↗
Dr. Rodgers, it's great to see you again. Although I don't think this hearing will be quite as moving and inspiring as the Children's Congress hearing of which you testified last summer. Seeing all those delegates with type 1 diabetes from across the country, including little 6-year-old Caroline from the state of Maine who traveled to share her story, was truly moving. Recent type 1 diabetes research funded by NIH has led to some exciting developments. Clinical trial data resulting from NIH funding a clinical islet transplantation consortium has contributed to FDA's approval of the first ever stem cell treatment for type 1 diabetes. And I realize the clinical trials have been small so far, but it is so exciting that after receiving this treatment, 10 out of 12 patients in clinical trials no longer needed insulin. That is extraordinary. Therefore, for the life of me, I cannot understand why the budget would propose a $167 million cut for your institute, the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases. By contrast, we have increased funding for the special diabetes program. But this is the last point of which we should be cutting funding for biomedical research, period. But your institute, given that we're finally seeing real progress, could you please comment on this?
Griffin Rodgers 35:03 ↗
Sure, Senator Collins. First of all, thank you for your ongoing support for the special diabetes program and yours and your colleagues. This has really led to some major breakthroughs in the way that people in this country with type 1 diabetes have enjoyed long and quality of life has changed dramatically. You mentioned the first-ever FDA-approved stem cell treatment transplantation. But also the first drug under your watch, Teplizumab, which can delay the onset of type 1 diabetes by at least three or more years. And also, it was at SDP support that's responsible for five of the six commercially available artificial pancreas technologies. And these are now being applied in many other areas. A reduction in funding will have consequences, of course. We'd have to either delay or postpone many of our efforts, including our TrialNet effort, which was actually the vehicle which led to this approval ultimately of the first drug to delay the onset. And we're right on the cusp of understanding what the environmental determinants of diabetes in youth are, the so-called TEDDY study. We're right at that point where we're in an intense data analysis phase. This could certainly delay that to some extent. Nonetheless, we're very thankful for what we get and we'll make the appropriate adjustments as necessary to ensure that all of our funding goes out as required by the law. Thank you.
Susan Collins 36:52 ↗
Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. I know I've gone over my time. I will submit for the record questions on Alzheimer's disease, which is also one of our top priorities, and women's health care grants. Great.
Tammy Baldwin 37:10 ↗
The current Ebola outbreak highlights the potential use of mRNA technology to respond rapidly to viral threats, especially ones we don't have vaccines or treatments for, like the Ebola strain that is emerging in Central Africa. But last year, Health and Human Services terminated $500 million in contracts for cutting-edge mRNA vaccine development, and then redirected that funding to 80-year-old vaccine technology. Experts have expressed serious concerns that this technology is outdated and inferior, and that the way the funding was awarded circumvented the scientific review process. Dr. Bhattacharya, will you commit to providing this subcommittee with the contracts that awarded that funding?
Jay Bhattacharya 38:07 ↗
Senator, so first I should say that the Ebola virus that's now in the DRC, we don't have a vaccine for it, but we do have and I
Tammy Baldwin 38:20 ↗
So, I'm raising an issue that there was $500 million in contracts for mRNA vaccine development that was cut off and then redirected. And so I was wondering what I asked was will you commit to providing this committee with the contracts that awarded that funding?
Jay Bhattacharya 38:39 ↗
So first those are BARDA contracts, not NIH contracts. So you can ask HHS specifically. As far as NIH contracts, absolutely. We're an open book for that.
Tammy Baldwin 38:50 ↗
Was there an open fair transparent call for proposals for this funding?
Jay Bhattacharya 38:57 ↗
Did we use this for the funding for the universal flu vaccine, you mean? For the funding that was taken from the mRNA contracts and redirected, the universal flu vaccine that the NIH is investing in for research for research purposes followed our normal processes for identifying intramural research opportunities. So the answer is yes, we
Tammy Baldwin 39:23 ↗
So was there peer review of that process?
Jay Bhattacharya 39:25 ↗
Same standard process that we use for all our intramural researchers. This is a very promising vaccine platform. I think the idea that we could get a single vaccine that can bypass the standard peer review competitive process is not accurate.
Tammy Baldwin 39:39 ↗
Award $100 million internally to two NIH researchers, one of whom is your deputy director. Senator, that's just not accurate.
Jay Bhattacharya 39:49 ↗
Senator, that's just not accurate. It followed the normal process for determining how intramural NIH has a tremendous number of amazing scientists, some of whom you see here at the table with me. There's a normal process for deciding which projects get funded.
Tammy Baldwin 40:05 ↗
$500 million in contracts were terminated, 100 million redirected to 80-year-old technology. Was there competition? Was there peer review? One of the researchers is best known for being a COVID vaccine skeptic. Did Secretary Kennedy or his special assistant direct NIH to award this funding to these two investigators?
Jay Bhattacharya 40:41 ↗
Senator, the project you're talking about is a tremendously promising project that could end HIV and the flu forever. It's a very promising project that could end the need for annual flu vaccines with a single injection that can protect people from the flu forever. I'm very concerned about the process, a lack of competition, lack of peer review. This funding was appropriated in the American Rescue Plan. Congress agreed in our fiscal year 2026 Labor HHS Appropriations Bill to rescind that funding. That bill was made public on January 20th. NIH obligated this funding on January 31st, well after the bill was public, but three days before it was enacted into law and would have been rescinded. In late January, did anyone at NIH discuss needing to award this funding before Congress rescinded it? Senator, we followed the law on allocating the funding and we've allocated it to a very promising project that promises to end the need for annual flu vaccines with a single injection that can protect people from the flu forever.
Tammy Baldwin 41:58 ↗
My understanding is that those discussions did happen and to be clear, the Trump administration rushed out American Rescue Plan funding before Congress could rescind it as we tried to do in our bill. Secretary Kennedy has his own narrative about the effectiveness or lack thereof of mRNA vaccine technology and hiding studies to show their effectiveness is something that I'm deeply disturbed about. Meanwhile, NIH is bypassing its actual gold standard scientific review process to unilaterally award more than $100 million to two NIH researchers, one of whom is best known for being a COVID vaccine skeptic and the other who reportedly just stepped down as NIAID director without any public explanation.
Jay Bhattacharya 42:46 ↗
Those researchers you're talking about are among the most important flu vaccine researchers in the world. They've had a tremendous track record of success in flu infectious disease for flu and particularly flu vaccination research. They're NIH-funded researchers. NIH researchers have been here for decades. They're among the world's leaders in flu vaccine research.
Tammy Baldwin 43:08 ↗
I expect to see those contracts. Thank you.
Shelley Moore Capito 43:13 ↗
Well, I was going to start my question with Dr. Latty, but I have to respond a little bit and Senator Baldwin and I get along really well, but the insinuation from the remarks that we're sitting in front of six incredible scientists for our country that are trying to solve some of the most deep, devastating problems that it's being done on the lamb or done illegally or done suspiciously is very offensive to me. So I just wanted to say that before I ask Dr. Latty, which he probably knows. He knows what I'm going to ask him, I think. I am from a rural state, as we know, and I'm very interested in the NCI Cancer Center designations and I've seen several projects where it talks about the concentration of cancers in rural areas such as mine, such as many of our states here, and some of the states that bear the highest cancer incidence and mortality rates remain largely without access to NCI designated care where it's proven the care is better, more successful, and has better rates of cure. So, you know, we have the IDEA program which has great success to help get some of that biomedical research out to our rural areas. What I would like to see is this NCI cancer designation branch sort of an alternative designation pathway or something so that the structural barriers that are preventing our eligible institutes in states such as mine from getting and I know mine's working towards this and I know you're working with them and I appreciate that. Will you continue to keep looking at this comprehensive review of cancer center support and maybe you could give us a 30-second how much more successful the rates are around cancer center designations for the patients that are being served in those immediate or regional areas?
NCI Director 45:11 ↗
Thanks, Senator. First, I'd like to say that I think an undercurrent of your question is that it's no good to have major advances in cancer research unless we can reach all Americans with them, and the NCI wholeheartedly agrees with you on that. With respect to West Virginia, we are working closely with Dr. Hazard Jenkins to make sure that when an application is submitted it will be a successful application. As you may know, NCI designated cancer centers are specifically designated because of their devotion to research as well as clinical as well as basic research if they are a comprehensive cancer center. And I think that's a very laudable goal and I agree with you that our cancer centers not only in providing clinical care, but also advancing the standard of care, our NCI designated cancer centers have been essential to that function. And we look forward to cancer centers from rural states joining that group. I will also want to make the point though that NCI-designated cancer centers aren't the only way that we bring top quality care to the more rural areas of America. We also have N Corp sites as well as NCTN sites throughout the country where people can enroll in NCI-supported cancer clinical trials. And that's a way of getting cutting-edge clinical research to people whether they're in rural environments or urban environments. And we look forward to continuing that. Thank you.
Shelley Moore Capito 46:37 ↗
Thank you very much. Dr. Volkow, you know in your visit to West Virginia and your many years of working in your area of expertise that we still got a big problem. So, we're having breakthroughs also in your area. Some exciting opioid research results from NIDA intramural research team. And I'm not even going to try to say his last name, so I'm just going to say Dr. Mike and his team identified a novel highly potent opioid that shows potential therapy for pain and opioid use disorder. Could you describe that research, please?
Nora Volkow 47:08 ↗
Yes, thank you very much for that question. And it is actually quite important because the overdose crisis was born out of lack of treatment for people suffering from chronic pain. That led to the use of opioids. So, a priority for our institute in partnership with others is to develop safer treatments for people with severe pain. And so, the one that you're reporting by Dr. Michael Aledort is actually an opioid itself. So, you can either go to mechanisms that don't invoke the opioid system or those that do. And most of the most powerful drugs we have actually activate that opioid system. What he has been able to document in animals is that this molecule activates the opioid receptor in a different way such that the signaling inside the cell results in does not result in the respiratory depression or the addictiveness of typical opioid drugs. So, in that respect it's a breakthrough because you're manipulating chemistry to create a conformation that can lead to analgesia, but it's safer. So, of course we need to bring this into humans.
Shelley Moore Capito 48:16 ↗
So, basically what I you're saying is an opioid that is not addictive that can address the pain element of that opioids are really good at numbing the pain, but also have the side effects of the addictiveness.
Nora Volkow 48:31 ↗
Exactly. But we need to test it in humans.
Shelley Moore Capito 48:34 ↗
Right. Okay. Senator Moran.
Jerry Moran 48:40 ↗
Are you sure I'm next? I am next on our list.
Shelley Moore Capito 48:47 ↗
Oh, you know what? You are right. Excuse me. God, I hate saying that to you. Senator Durbin.
Dick Durbin 48:56 ↗
Thank you, Senator Moran and Madam Chair. I was a sophomore in high school, 14 years old. My father had lung cancer and he died at age 53. And I stood by his hospital bed and felt absolutely helpless and destroyed as a kid. I never forgot that experience. I never will. So, when I came to Congress, I decided to take on big tobacco. 36 years ago, I introduced a little amendment. It banned smoking on airplanes. That amendment triggered a reaction I didn't even anticipate. It was a tipping point. At the time we passed that amendment to ban smoking on airplanes, 27% of high school students were smoking tobacco products. 27%. Today, it's 2%. But, our kids arenft safe from another product of Big Tobacco. It's called vaping. Are you all familiar with vaping? I'm sure you are as medical doctors. Dr. Volkow, is vaping dangerous to children?
Nora Volkow 50:08 ↗
Yes, vaping is itself, but even more so if it has nicotine, it can produce addiction in and particularly in children, this can actually escalate. So, yes.
Dick Durbin 50:21 ↗
Do you hear any statistics about the percent of kids in high school and junior high who are vaping today?
Nora Volkow 50:28 ↗
Yes, we monitor it very carefully. Unfortunately, we have seen significant reductions in vaping among teenagers in our country over the past 3 to 4 years. So, yes, fortunately because the levels were very high. Went up to 23% of 12th graders. And now we are much lower than that.
Dick Durbin 50:41 ↗
So, Big Tobacco is no longer peddling tobacco to your kids and grandkids. They're peddling vaping. With the same addictive qualities of that nicotine and the same danger to these kids. So, the question, Dr. Bhattacharya, is what is this administration doing about vaping?
Jay Bhattacharya 51:06 ↗
So, you heard Dr. Volkow talk about our research programs in vaping. I agree it's dangerous for kids. For the NIH, our role is to document the ways that vaping and other things affect the health of children as well as other people.
Dick Durbin 51:27 ↗
Do you see any connection between fruit-flavored vaping and children being attracted to it?
Jay Bhattacharya 51:33 ↗
I mean, I we'd have to do research, but I absolutely think that that is probably inappropriate for children to be using fruit-flavored vapes.
Dick Durbin 51:40 ↗
Do you realize that the announced policy of this administration within the last 2 weeks is going to make it easier for these companies to peddle fruit monster vaping, candy king vaping, raspberry slushy bait vaping to our children in junior high and high school now.
Jay Bhattacharya 51:57 ↗
Senator, I think that vaping for kids is a dangerous thing. And I think that the role of the NIH isn't to set policy, it's to do research to document the ways to address these health problems.
Dick Durbin 52:09 ↗
Conceded the obvious. They're peddling flavors that attract children. Children who don't have the maturity to make the decision. And they become addicted to a product which is dangerous to them according to Dr. Volkow, which I couldn't agree more. So, how can we in good conscience say that this administration has the best interest of children at heart when they're exposing them to this deadly product?
Jay Bhattacharya 52:32 ↗
Senator, all I can say is about the NIH's commitment to make sure that we study this issue as fairly and evenly and objectively as possible in a rigorous way.
Dick Durbin 52:42 ↗
We don't need a study. We need action. We need to stop this. And the previous administration wasn't much better to be honest with you. And I was pretty critical of them as well. To think that these companies, many from China, are going to peddle some product to our kids that they're going to vape in this steamy concoction of chemicals, chromium and God only knows what else is in it. And we're going to look the other way as this administration says, 'Let's get have some more fruit flavors on hand for kids to dabble in and to try to make a decision.' Does this make sense to you?
Jay Bhattacharya 53:17 ↗
I mean, Senator, having kids have more access to vaping does not make sense to me.
Dick Durbin 53:22 ↗
Is there anyone on the panel of you six doctors who think this is a sensible decision by the Trump administration to make it easier to peddle fruit flavored vaping to kids in high school and junior high school? Is there anyone among you who thinks that's a good idea?
Nora Volkow 53:39 ↗
No.
Dick Durbin 53:40 ↗
Thank goodness you're honest in your response. Well, there is a disclosure today about a $5 million donation from big tobacco that preceded the vaping decision. Reynolds sent along a check for $5 million and the president switched his position on this. This is ghastly to think that we're allowing this to occur. And here I am 36 years after passing the ban on smoking on airplanes seeing us introducing a new product and new variations on it to addict our children. For God's sake, is there one person in the administration besides those who've already resigned who'll stand up and say enough. This violates my conscience. I yield.
Shelley Moore Capito 54:22 ↗
Thank you Senator Durbin. Before I go to Senator Moran and thank you for correcting me by the way. I would like to recognize two of the ACS volunteers youth volunteers from West Virginia that are in the audience. Nicole and Brendan, can you guys stand up real quick? Thank you all for what you're doing. Okay, Senator Moran.
Jerry Moran 54:40 ↗
Chairman Capito, thank you very much. Dr. Bhattacharya, I appreciated the opportunity to welcome you to Kansas last November. I appreciate your visit. I have already invited Dr. Rudder to come home to Kansas. Dr. Hodes volunteered to come visit Kansas on his own volition this morning. Dr. Latty, you are the only cancer director and it's the amount of time that you've been in office not any other criticism that hasn't been with me in at in Kansas to see what we're doing. And I would extend the opportunity and welcome the chance to showcase but more importantly those visits I hope affect how you look at research decisions that you make. But perhaps the most value is for us to figure out how we can do our jobs better to meet the needs of this country and this world in solving the problems related to diseases and afflictions. And so I'm very appreciative of your presence here today, and I appreciate the relationship that we've developed with you all in the past, and look forward to that continuing. I want to raise first a topic and I don't know that I've asked about Parkinson's disease in any one of these hearings before, but it certainly I'm becoming more aware of the challenges people face in regard to this disease. FY26, we were successful in adding a $5 million amount of money for implementation of the national plan to end Alzheimer's. And Dr. Bhattacharya or Dr. Hodes, tell me what that means as far as what's going to happen as a result of that?
Jay Bhattacharya 56:17 ↗
I'm going to let my colleague Dr. Hodes say because he Dr. Hodes? Yeah.
Richard Hodes 56:22 ↗
The national plan for Parkinson's disease for which NINDS will be taking the major lead follows the pattern for Alzheimer's disease in which there's a national advisory council that has been established. This brings together scientific experts, advocates, members from private and public sector to work together in an unusual committee structure to survey and make recommendations for progress in research and care and long-term services. And I think the Parkinson's initiative is intended to model very much after this very effective and very all-encompassing approach to an important neurodegenerative disease. I was involved at the funding and the initiation of efforts to do what you just described in the world of Alzheimer's, and I'm pleased to see it's seen as a role model for other things that we hope can address as we are doing Alzheimer's now.
Jerry Moran 57:17 ↗
I want to ask a question perhaps to all of you because I think every institute may have something to do with this topic. I'd like to discuss NIH research on CMV. It's not a thing that's well known. But it is a common, generally harmless virus that can be contracted at any age. CMV is the most common congenital viral infection affecting newborns. According to the CMV Foundation, one in 200 children born with congenital CMV each year. When transmitted to a child during pregnancy, the virus is often symptomless, but in some cases can lead to developmental disabilities and medical conditions in children. I'm telling you something that you know, but I want my colleagues to understand what I'm talking about. There are treatments that are available for children who are born with congenital CMV and display symptoms like hearing loss if administered to that child shortly after birth. But there's a current patchwork of approach across our states for screening, testing, treatment. In Virginia, you have a hearing test on the birth of a child. In Kansas, you do not. And my question is NIH has funded CMV research for decades and in recent fiscal years, there's been dozens of new grants awarded to the study. Would you speak to the developments in this issue that I've raised?
Jay Bhattacharya 58:45 ↗
Thank you, Senator, for bringing to the attention of the country this problem. Cytomegalovirus, the virus you're talking about, can absolutely, when infecting children, cause some of the conditions you talked about, including hearing loss. We have a program to evaluate universal CMV screening policies to see how it can prevent exactly the outcomes you're talking about. I think it's not as well known as people might hear about HIV or other viruses, but it is something where potentially early intervention can make a big difference in the life of a child. And we at the NIH are absolutely committed to studying it and figuring out ways to better prevent it so that children don't have to suffer for it.
Jerry Moran 59:30 ↗
Are there any other directors that have comments on this topic? Okay. My time is expired. Thank you, Chairwoman.
Shelley Moore Capito 59:41 ↗
Senator Shaheen.
Jeanne Shaheen 59:43 ↗
Thank you all for being here this morning. I'm going to ask a question. I understand that Senator Collins has already asked this question, but as the other co-chair of the Diabetes Caucus, I think it's worth following up. I'm going to direct this to you, Dr. Rodgers, and to Dr. Bhattacharya. Because, as we all know, the federally funded research through NIDDK is,
Through the Special Diabetes Program, has really made a difference in advancing diabetes treatments, which is not only smart from a personal perspective to help those people who have type 1 and type 2 who require insulin, but it makes good policy sense because it saves money in the long run. And unfortunately, what we've seen in the President's budget is that it cuts both of those programs. So, can both of you share why diabetes research funding is so critical and what's going to happen, what would happen if we were to cut all of that research funding, Dr. Rodgers?
Griffin Rodgers 1:00:48 ↗
Thank you for the question. And again, thanks for your long-term support on not only the Special Diabetes Program, but other forms of diabetes, which is extremely important. On the type 1 diabetes front, we're really while we've made a lot of major findings and accelerated the course so that the care and the quality of life has changed vastly over time, there are some discoveries that were right on the cusp of having a second level of impact. And I would say, you know, we know that people that have type 1 diabetes, for example, are potentially genetically prone, but it's something in the environment, a trigger, that turns on their immune system. We have screened a large number of people, followed 8,000 kids from birth to the age of 15, and we just concluded enrolling and completing the data collection on the last patient about a year ago. We're now in a phase in which we're analyzing these data using artificial intelligence and machine learning. And should there be a cut, this may be delayed in actually answering this question. If it turns out, of course, it's something in the diet, then dietary modifications would be in order. If it's a viral or some other, I'm quite likely there are multiple causes of triggering, but those are the things that we're just on the cusp of learning. In terms of a cure of the disease, we have developed ways to expand stem cells derived from patients, got an FDA approval for that. But now we're trying to figure out how to get these stem cells, you know, in large volumes into patients to restore it. I'm very familiar with that, the islet cell therapy in Vertex, which has a new partnership with Lonza in New Hampshire, yes, working on that, and we've seen some really amazing results, I think, from that. I'm going to stop there because I'm about to run out of time, but I want to go to Dr. Volkow.
Jeanne Shaheen 1:02:58 ↗
Because you have been so helpful over the years from your research in addressing substance misuse and the opioid challenges we've had in New Hampshire, and we've appreciated that following up on Senator Capito's question about where are we? So, I would like you to give us an update on some of the new research, if you would, to address substance misuse. But, I would also like to just register, Dr. Bhattacharya, my concern about merging NIDA with the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism and cutting the funding at the same time by 165 million, and I think at a time when the country's still recovering from this opioid epidemic, that is not the time to do that. But, can you update us on some of your new research?
Nora Volkow 1:03:54 ↗
No, no. Thanks so very much for that question. And yes, we've done significant progress in actually, fortunately, in reduction in overdoses from opioids across the country, but the numbers are still very, very high, and we cannot forget about it. And the other issue that is very relevant is there certain states where that is not happening. And particularly, for example, the reduction in overdose deaths is not as apparent in rural areas. So, some of the states actually still are seeing increases in overdoses. It has become more complex because it's not just opioid, but it's also stimulants. On the front of research, there's obviously some extremely exciting areas that look quite transformative. Particularly, I'm interested on a comment that Dr. Bhattacharya said related to repurposing. We're observing that the GLP drugs, which are the medications we use for obesity and diabetes, are actually leading patients to spontaneously stop taking them. And that's a very, very exciting area of research. In parallel, as was being described also, as we understand with the brain initiative, how the brain works. And tools to actually modulate it, we now have new ways of treating substance use disorder. And two, we are getting into the space with drugs to be able to optimize the way that we can help the brain recover itself from harms through neuroplasticity. So, this is a time of enormous amounts of discovery. And we're trying to translate them into products.

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  author       = {Jay Bhattacharya},
  title        = {LIVE: NIH Director Dr. Jay Bhattacharya Testifies Before The Senate},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Forbes Breaking News. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {jun},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1054738/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
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