Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse says an XRP ETF is "nevitable" from the DC Fintech Week conference in Washington. He speaks with hosts Sonali Basak and Tim Stenovec.
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0:00And so when you think about the differences in the candidates and how they might approach crypto, what do you really know, particularly because the Harris campaign has been far more vague?
1:20What's better for you? What's better for Ripple?
2:36What is the prospect of having that spot ETF tied to XRP anytime soon, and what do you think it'll mean for the price of XRP?
3:56What indication do you have, Brad, that there actually is demand for an XRP ETF?
4:41And you have that recent move by the SEC to appeal a court judgment that had been more favorable for Ripple in this fight. When does it end, Brad?
6:09What are you looking for in return from these politicians?
7:31When you look at a deal like that, do you say okay maybe we sell Ripple or at least partner with another large financial technology firm to expand in the world of stablecoins?
No matter how you slice it, crypto certainly has a bigger voice in the election cycle than ever before. It's a great way to get into our next guest, Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse, of course one of the companies we named when it came to the involvement in this election cycle. And Brad, you know it's interesting because your co-founder Chris Larsen has given a lot of money to the Harris campaign. You had just told us a little bit ago that you are fiercely independent. And so when you think about the differences in the candidates and how they might approach crypto, what do you really know, particularly because the Harris campaign has been far more vague?
Well, I think there's one thing I feel very confident about, and that is the Biden administration's approach to regulation of the crypto industry that is coming to an end for sure. And I think no matter where this plays out at the presidential level, we'll have a more constructive engagement with this industry. It's a critical industry, it's an innovative technology, and I think the United States should be at the forefront and leading as we did with the internet of information. I think we'll get there. As I said yesterday at the Philadelphia Federal Reserve, I think Gary Gensler's reign of terror on the crypto industry is going to come to an end very soon.
Brad, in your view, does it matter if Kamala Harris is President come January 20th or Donald Trump is President come January 20th? What's better for you? What's better for Ripple?
Well, I've taken a very neutral point of view for the crypto industry. I think it's clear that the Republicans at a macro level have been more proactive in saying this is an industry that needs clear regulation. You have seen a Republican-led bill in the House pass with 71 or 72 Democrats crossing the aisle to support that in a very bipartisan way. So I think we have seen a more Republican-centric, but I also think you've seen indications that the Harris campaign wants to reset some of the very flawed approaches that the Biden Administration has had with the crypto industry and other parts of technology. So what I'm optimistic about is we're going to see a change, we're going to see a reset, and I think we need that at the federal level. The United States, there's no question the United States is behind other leading countries like the UK, like Switzerland, like Singapore, like Japan that are way ahead in providing constructive and clear regulation and rules of the road for this industry.
Brad, I also want to kind of switch gears here and talk about another milestone, let's call it, for XRP, which is this idea that you have asset managers now filing for ETFs tied to it, started by Bitwise. What is the prospect of having that spot ETF tied to XRP anytime soon, and what do you think it'll mean for the price of XRP?
Look, I think we clearly are seeing ETFs have been popular. You know, the United States SEC was dragged kicking and screaming to approve the Bitcoin ETF in January. I think you've seen about 17 billion dollar flow into that ETF. I think it's the fastest growing ETF in history. It's very clearly demonstrating there's demand from institutions, there's demand from retail to access this asset class. So the XRP interest has grown. You've seen two or three ETF filings happen around XRP, and to me it's just inevitable you're going to see not just Bitcoin and ETH, you're going to see an XRP ETF. You're starting to see there's a filing around a basket ETF that has I think five or six cryptos in it, which I think also makes a lot of sense. But it also is just part of the trend of more and more institutionalized participation in the crypto industry. So I think we'll continue to see that, and I do think it creates upward pressure on the prices for many different cryptos including XRP.
The flows into the Bitcoin ETFs have been pretty remarkable. Not so remarkable have been flows into the ETH ETFs. What indication do you have, Brad, that there actually is demand for an XRP ETF?
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Garlinghouse, B. (2024, October 23). Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse says an XRP ETF Is ‘Inevitable’ | Bloomberg Talks [Interview transcript]. Bloomberg Podcasts. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1085146/
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Brad Garlinghouse. "Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse says an XRP ETF Is ‘Inevitable’ | Bloomberg Talks." Bloomberg Podcasts, 23 Oct. 2024. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1085146/.
BibTeX
@misc{garlinghouse2024_1085146,
author = {Brad Garlinghouse},
title = {Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse says an XRP ETF Is ‘Inevitable’ | Bloomberg Talks},
howpublished = {Interview transcript, Bloomberg Podcasts. CEOInterviews.AI},
year = {2024},
month = {oct},
url = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1085146/},
note = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}