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Peter Koerte
Member of the Managing Board, Chief Technology Officer and Chief Strategy Officer, Siemens

How Siemens, Kion, and OHB Are Building Industrial AI Through Data Partnerships

🎥 Mar 30, 2026 📺 Siemens ⏱ 23m 👁 185 views
This panel discussion brings together technology leaders from Siemens, Kion, and OHB to examine how industrial AI, digital twins, and data ecosystems are reshaping engineering, operations, and supply chain management across industries. The conversation features Rob Smith, CTO at KION, Christina Wagner, CTO and Chief Digital Officer at OHB, and Peter Koerte, Chief Technology and Strategy Officer from Siemens. The discussion explores why cross-industry data collaboration has become essential for scaling industrial AI, and why no single company can achieve this alone. Christina Wagner explains...
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About Peter Koerte

Peter Koerte, Chief Technology and Strategy Officer at Siemens, participated in a panel discussion on March 30, 2026, alongside KION CTO Rob Smith and OHB CTO Christina Wagner, focusing on industrial AI, digital twins, and data ecosystems. Koerte stated that the major difference between industrial AI and consumer-oriented large language models is the data challenge, noting that industrial data, unlike language found on the internet, is not publicly available. He argued that no single company has enough data to build the next generation of frontier models for the physical world, and that the only way forward is to build open data ecosystems through partnerships where companies exchange data while protecting intellectual property. Koerte described the partnership with KION and OHB as a way to combine domain expertise and datasets, with Siemens helping to encapsulate that knowledge in models that can be scaled universally. He expressed the belief that Europe has a global advantage in domain knowledge, and that by combining it with trusted partners to build an industrial foundation model, the region can scale it faster than others. Koerte also noted that space and aerospace companies face challenges in designing systems for flexibility and making them software-defined and AI-capable, as assets in deep space are not easily adaptable.

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Transcript (34 segments)
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Host0:08
Welcome, Rob.
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Rob Smith0:09
Good to be back.
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Host0:10
Let's take a seat on the Sofa of Wisdom.
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Rob Smith0:14
Oh, my.
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Host0:15
Yes, that's what we call it. Because it is always occupied by smart and clever people who know how to innovate and use the right technology.
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Rob Smith0:23
Well, here we go.
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Host0:25
Right. Thank you for taking the time to dive a little deeper into our joint activities. Why don't you quickly introduce yourselves, so our audience knows who's who and which fields you work in?
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Rob Smith0:38
Thanks, Christine. My name is Rob Smith. I'm the CEO of KION, the supply-chain solutions company.
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Kristina Wagner0:45
Hello, everyone. My name is Kristina Wagner. I'm CTO—Chief Technology Officer—and Chief Digital Officer at OHB, which is a space company.
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Host0:55
Very good.
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Peter Koerte0:56
And, as you can see on the screen, my name is Peter. I look after technology and strategy at Siemens, among many other things.
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Host1:07
Yes. Peter, you brought this group together. At first glance, it is quite an unusual combination of companies. We have Siemens, a leading technology company; KION, a champion in supply chains and logistics; and OHB, a pioneer in space and aerospace technology. What brings you together?
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Peter Koerte1:34
Well, first of all, these are great partners, and we get along very well. Second, it is all about trust. We have known each other for a long time, and together we want to master the major challenges we all face. Whether you are KION, OHB, or Siemens, we all face the same challenges. Geopolitics is obviously a major issue right now. Everyone is dealing with uncertainty in the supply chain; nobody knows what will happen next. Then there is demographic change. We cannot find enough people, and there is a massive shortage of skilled labor. There is also the need to become more resilient and resource-efficient, as well as more sustainable and energy-efficient. We all face the same challenges, and technology is clearly how we must address them. We solve them not by working harder, but by working smarter—by accessing all the available data and knowledge. I think that is what unites us. We want to succeed in our respective industries, and we want to do it more intelligently.
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Host2:49
That is a great approach, but it is probably easier said than done. Let's dive deeper into the topic. Kristina, I will focus on you now. Where do you see industrial AI having the greatest impact in industry?
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Kristina Wagner3:04
At OHB, industrial AI is a catalyst in two major areas. The first is accelerating the engineering lifecycle; the second is strengthening mission operations. Our satellites, space systems, and especially satellite constellations are becoming increasingly complex. Yet we are expected to deliver and develop them faster than ever. That creates a major challenge. Development that used to take many years is now expected to happen extremely quickly. As Peter mentioned, this is not purely an economic issue; geopolitical interests also have to be addressed. This is where AI comes in. AI helps us condense engineering cycles. Engineering changes that used to take weeks can now sometimes be completed in just hours. At the same time, digitalization improves traceability, reduces the effort required for simulation and testing, and reduces human error. That is critical, because time is not only an economic factor; it is also a matter of technological sovereignty. Once a satellite is deployed into orbit, AI comes in again. It helps us operate mission control autonomously and detect anomalies, which is essential. We clearly see the future of space as AI-driven and software-defined. In short, AI helps us develop faster, operate more securely, and stay ahead of the curve. And because space is an extremely document-heavy industry by nature, let me end on a lighter note. There used to be a joke that if NASA printed all the Apollo documents and stacked them, you could build a staircase to the Moon. I am convinced that was optimistic; today, you would need high-speed escalators. AI helps us move through the sheer complexity and volume quickly enough.
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Host6:17
Okay, that is a nice example. I am actually very glad that AI is already heavily involved in sending those satellites into space. But that brings us back to Peter: you need to trust that what you have developed, and how you developed it, is safe and reliable. Rob, let me come to you. There are challenges, but there are also opportunities. Where do you see the greatest challenges and opportunities for industrial AI?
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Rob Smith6:49
Happy to address that. Thank you, Christine. Let me start by saying how excited I am. We are announcing the strategic partnership between Siemens and KION here. Connecting the real and digital worlds, and bringing them together through physical and digital twins, offers a very exciting solution to significant supply-chain challenges. By design, everything in the supply chain is constantly in motion and constantly changing. Today's supply chains are more complex and vulnerable than ever. To make them future-proof, we need to make them resilient and flexible. That means designing in optionality and agility, and being able to operate and optimize in real time. The answer is a digital twin: bringing the physical twin and the digital twin together. You can design the next supply-chain node in the digital twin, including all the mechatronics and software. You can simulate, emulate, and validate the solution before you build it. The digital twin becomes the blueprint for constructing the physical twin, and then the brain that operates it, thinking faster than real time and instructing all the actors in the supply chain—people, humanoids, robots, and warehouse automation—on the next optimal step. That is what physical AI and industrial AI can do for the supply chain, and it is what we are doing. The real-time result is real impact. We have an autonomous truck operating in a full-scale greenfield facility. It recognizes what is happening, carries out logistics missions, and operates safely among people and other machines. With the solutions we are developing, we will be able to scale this across the supply chain.
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Host9:03
Wow. So you are thinking about an entire fleet?
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Rob Smith9:06
I am talking about everything within and beyond the four walls—the entire supply chain being continuously optimized with digital twins.
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Host9:16
Very visionary. You definitely sound as though you take being a good partner to the digital twin seriously. Peter, all of that sounds promising, but based on what we have just heard, what is still holding industrial AI back from scaling faster?
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Peter Koerte9:34
First of all, we love partners with really big challenges, dreams, and aspirations, as Kristina and Rob both indicated: building something in space and revolutionizing the supply chain. What you need for that is intelligence; you need to be smart. And that comes down to data. That is why this year's session is about how we build data ecosystems. The major difference between industrial AI and all the discussions about generative AI and large language models is that consumer-oriented large language models are based on language, as the name suggests. Language can usually be found on the internet, so those models are trained on material published online. In industry, can you imagine OHB saying, 'Here is my latest design for a satellite constellation,' and publishing all the 3D designs, manufacturing data, and documentation on the internet? Certainly not. Rob would not do that with KION's solutions either. The major difference in industry is the data challenge: how do you collect data from production, engineering, and design, and then build the next generation of frontier models for use in the physical world? The only way is to build open data ecosystems. That is why it is so valuable to have Rob and Kristina here and to establish partnerships in which we agree to exchange data, with everyone contributing their domain expertise and the right datasets. We at Siemens can then help bring this together in a way that encapsulates the knowledge and domain know-how in models that can be scaled universally. That is the key, because none of us can do it alone. Siemens cannot. Yes, we produce trains, substations, and other products, but we do not have enough data. OHB does not have enough data, and KION does not have enough data. Together, however, we can move forward. We can also apply the AI expertise we have built, develop models around the data, ensure that no one's intellectual property is violated, and then begin to scale. That is the only way to do it.
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Host12:03
It sounds as though you have a clear path in mind. And I am delighted that KION has joined this data partnership with us. Why did you decide to join so early? I would not call this a test phase, but you are always in pole position when it comes to new technologies. Was Siemens's role as a trusted partner the deciding factor?
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Rob Smith12:31
Thank you. A great deal of trust is involved, and there is a common, shared vision of connecting the digital and physical worlds and bringing AI into industry through an industrial foundation model. In our view, that accelerates engineering design, engineering itself, implementation, and manufacturing. As Peter rightly said, great industrial companies need a strong foundation for all that work. That foundation is data. You need excellent data, but no single company has all the data it needs. When you can partner with companies you trust that share the same vision, it creates an exciting first-mover advantage for your company and your industry. We are delighted to be working with excellent partners on this project.
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Host13:28
Pole position for KION here.
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Rob Smith13:30
Definitely.
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Host13:31
Now, Kristina, when you think about OHB and aerospace, the data is highly sensitive. You definitely do not want to disclose it unless you know exactly who will receive it. What made this data collaboration worth pursuing, and why did you choose Siemens?
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Kristina Wagner13:52
There is certainly a sense of urgency for us at the moment because, as I mentioned, time to orbit is the new KPI we have to deliver against. That can only be achieved with excellent technology and tools in engineering and production. You mentioned data sensitivity. I believe space data is among the most sensitive industrial data because it is mission-critical, security-relevant, and usually highly proprietary. That is a challenging combination. From the outset, a partnership must meet a very high standard of trust, protection, and governance. That is why we chose to join very early: we want to help shape the rules, not merely follow them. If Europe and companies such as Siemens want to lead in industrial AI, companies like ours must help shape those operating rules. For us, choosing Siemens was quite natural, to be honest. There are several key reasons. First, the solution and platform are trusted by design because the data remains sovereign and protected. Second, Siemens clearly has the relevant domain expertise. Siemens understands how complex engineering, verification, and operations work, including for critical systems. We also see enormous potential in this broad ecosystem, where the space sector can benefit from information across industries, including industries that sometimes innovate faster than we do. Last but not least—and perhaps the strongest argument—is the cultural fit: the high expectations for quality and the shared heritage of engineering excellence make the collaboration feel natural to us.
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Host16:44
That sounds great. Siemens certainly knows how to innovate after more than 175 years. We have extensive expertise and passionate people working on it. Peter, if collaborations like this are so successful, what will the future look like? Where is this taking us?
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Peter Koerte17:18
There is a great quote: 'The future is already here; it is just unevenly distributed.' Kristina and Rob are bringing the future here and making that distribution uneven. They are creating an unfair advantage in their respective industries because they are moving early. What we are showing here at HANNOVER MESSE is the first example: the Eigen Engineering Agent. It helps industrial automation scale faster because automation systems have to be programmed, and today there are not enough programmers. We can significantly accelerate programming in terms of both quality and time. This is industrial AI already in action, and we can show that it is trustworthy, secure, and reliable. So far, we have optimized one step: programming a machine. But that is still piecemeal. There are many steps, whether you are designing a satellite, a forklift, or an AMR. What we want to connect is design, engineering, production, operations, and maintenance. They are all part of what we call the digital thread, so that you can optimize everything in one go and make it work. This is what Rob was already referring to as the industrial foundation model. The industrial foundation model thinks end to end. If I have to engineer and design a component, I can already consider its material properties, layout, and design, as well as how to manufacture it, so I can optimize it in one step. That is why access to data from engineering, manufacturing, and operations is so critical, and why this can only be achieved through partnerships. I wholeheartedly believe that we in Europe have a major global advantage: our domain knowledge. If we combine that domain knowledge with excellent partners such as KION and OHB and build the industrial foundation model together in a trusted way, we can scale it much faster than anyone else.
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Host19:34
A great vision becoming reality. We have heard a lot about the future, but these days the future is now. We usually say, 'See you next year at HANNOVER MESSE,' and we would love to hear about the successes you can report then. In this case, however, we are talking about three, four, or perhaps six months at most. What do you expect to have achieved by then, Rob?
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Rob Smith20:05
It is a little like Peter's point that the future is unevenly distributed. Part of it is already here, and the faster we create together, the faster we can realize it. One thing we learned through our partnership with NVIDIA—and I think it has become contagious among all the excellent companies working with NVIDIA—is to adopt an innovation cycle with a major event every two or three months. There is CES in Las Vegas, HANNOVER MESSE, GTC in California, and events in China. We continually accelerate innovation so that several times a year we can deliver a substantial gain and bring it to the point where it creates value for customers. It is a very rapid cycle. The future is a big treadmill, and we are all running very fast on it together. As long as we keep up the fitness program, we will be ready for all the challenges ahead.
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Host21:15
Kristina, one more thing. You represent the aerospace industry, which is present at HANNOVER MESSE for the very first time this year, given the current ecological and economic situation. Have you visited Hall 26, where this topic is being presented? What have you seen there, and are there any ideas you want to take home from Hannover?
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Kristina Wagner21:42
Oh, definitely. I think all of us face broadly similar challenges. One reason this partnership is so interesting and relevant is the level of industrialization required. I would not necessarily say mass production, but certainly volume and high-volume production. We also need systems that can continue to be innovated throughout their lifetime because there is so much competition and innovation. Once you have assets flying in deep space, however, they are not easy to adapt, and a significant amount of capital expenditure is tied up in them. It is therefore fundamental to design those systems for flexibility and to make them software-defined and AI-capable. I think this is a common thread for all space and aerospace companies as they master this new leap in innovation.
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Host22:51
All right. Thank you so much. Great insights and perspectives. Peter, innovation is really your topic, and we will take that message with us as well. Thank you all for sharing your insights and for joining forces with Siemens. We are proud and honored that you have teamed up, and we look forward to more joint projects and outcomes. Thank you very much.