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Peter Koerte
Member of the Managing Board, Chief Technology Officer and Chief Strategy Officer, Siemens

KION, OHB and Siemens: How data ecosystems will shape the next era of industrial AI

🎥 Apr 24, 2026 📺 Siemens Knowledge Hub ⏱ 23m 👁 123 views
Industrial AI can help solve some of industry’s toughest challenges: from rising engineering complexity to the pressure to innovate faster. But scaling takes more than technology; it requires trusted access to high-quality industrial data. Join Peter Koerte, CTO and CSR at Siemens, Kristina Wagner, Officer & CDO at OHB and Rob Smith CEO at KION Group, as they discuss how data ecosystems can unlock new value and shape the next era of industrial AI. Interested in solutions in intralogistics? Find out more here:www.siemens.com/intralogistics (http://www.siemens.com/intralogistics)
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About Peter Koerte

Peter Koerte, Chief Technology and Strategy Officer at Siemens, participated in a panel discussion on March 30, 2026, alongside KION CTO Rob Smith and OHB CTO Christina Wagner, focusing on industrial AI, digital twins, and data ecosystems. Koerte stated that the major difference between industrial AI and consumer-oriented large language models is the data challenge, noting that industrial data, unlike language found on the internet, is not publicly available. He argued that no single company has enough data to build the next generation of frontier models for the physical world, and that the only way forward is to build open data ecosystems through partnerships where companies exchange data while protecting intellectual property. Koerte described the partnership with KION and OHB as a way to combine domain expertise and datasets, with Siemens helping to encapsulate that knowledge in models that can be scaled universally. He expressed the belief that Europe has a global advantage in domain knowledge, and that by combining it with trusted partners to build an industrial foundation model, the region can scale it faster than others. Koerte also noted that space and aerospace companies face challenges in designing systems for flexibility and making them software-defined and AI-capable, as assets in deep space are not easily adaptable.

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Transcript (29 segments)
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Moderator0:08
Welcome to Hanova Message back. Let's take a seat on the sofa of wisdom. Oh my. Yeah, that's how we call it because it's always smart and clever people who know how to innovate, who know how to use the right technology. Here we go. Um, great you're taking the time to dive a bit deeper in our joint activities. Why don't you just quickly introduce yourself so our audience here knows who's who and um which fields are you in?
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Rob Smith0:38
Thanks Christina. My name is Rob Smith. I'm the CEO at Keon the supply chain solutions company.
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Christina Vagner0:45
Hi together. My name is Christina Vagner. I'm CTO, so chief technology officer and chief digital officer at OB, which is a space company.
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Peter Koerte0:56
Very good. And uh as you can see on the screen, so well done is my name is Peter and I'm looking after technology at Seammens and strategy and a lot more and many more.
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Moderator1:07
Um yes and um you brought this round here together Peter and at the first glance it's quite an unusual um combination of companies. We got Seammens as a strong leading tech company. We got Keon, a champion in supply chain and logistics. And then we go on space in aerospace. We got OB, a pioneer of space and technology. What brings you together?
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Peter Koerte1:34
Well, uh, for one, these are great partners and, uh, we going to get there in in a second. It's all about trust and, uh, we know each other for a longer time. And so we together want to master the big challenges all of us are facing. And no matter if you are Keon, if you are H OB, if you are Seammens, we all have the same challenges. Obviously geopolitics is a big issue right now. Everybody's facing with uncertainties in the supply chain. Nobody knows what's going to happen. Then we have a demographic change. We don't find enough people. Skilled labor is really there's a massive shortage around it. There's the quest for being more resilient and more resourceful when it comes down to also um sustainability and energy efficiency. So we all face the same challenges and what we said clearly is um what we have to address those challenges is with technology. We're going to solve it by being not working harder but by being smarter by having access to all the data all the knowledge that is out there and this is I think this is what unites us. We want to be successful in the respective industries and uh we want to do this smarter.
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Moderator2:48
Mhm. Um that's a great approach but that's probably much easier said than done. But let's dive deeper into the topic now. Um Christina I'm focusing on you now. Where do you see industrial AI having the biggest impact in industry?
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Christina Vagner3:04
So look um for us at OB industrial AI is a catalyst for actually two major areas. So the first one is accelerating engineering life cycle and then the second one is actually to strengthen mission operations. So our satellite or space systems and especially the satellite constellations they are getting more and more complex and yet the request is to to deliver much faster than ever to develop much faster than ever and this gives quite a stretch for us. So um when you consider the past development times that once spent above many years are now requested to be solved super super quickly. And as as Peter mentioned this is al this is not purely from a economic point of view. The reason for that is also that we have some geopolitical interests that we need to master and then here AI comes in. So AI helps us to condense engineering cycles for instance take engineering changes. So things which in the past took us like weeks are now condensed to days sometimes even just hours. And you know at the same time with digitalization you can improve traceability. You also reduce um efforts in simulation in testing. You reduce also human error and that is critical. It's critical because time is not only the economic factor but it's also a matter of geo like of technological sovereignity. Mhm. And then once the satellite is like deployed to the orbit, AI comes in again because it helps us to actually operate mission control autonomously on the one hand side and then on the other hand side it it also um helps us actually to find anomalies which is also essential. So we we clearly see that the future in space is actually AI-driven and software-defined. So in the end or in short let's say AI helps us to develop faster to operate more secure and also helps us to stay ahead of time.
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Moderator5:39
Mhm.
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Christina Vagner5:40
And um maybe because you know space is a super document heavy industry by nature. So let me let me end with a bit of lighter notes. So there used to be this joke that if NAZA would have printed all the Apollo documents and stack those, you could build some stairs up to the moon. And and I'm super convinced that now with Arteimus, you would even need high-speed escalators, right? And it is the AI that helps us to to keep moving through the sheer complexity and volume fast enough. Okay, nice uh example here. Actually, I'm I'm pretty pretty glad that there is a lot of AI involved already in sending those satellites up there. But you definitely and here we come back to Peter again. You need to have trust that what you have more or less accomplished in regards of how you do that that this is a safe thing. Now Rob, let me come to you. Um where there is challenges, there is also opportunities. Where do you see the greatest of both in regards of industrial AI um help address at Keon?
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Rob Smith6:52
Oh, thank you, Christina. Let me just start by saying how excited I am. We're announcing our Seammens and Keon partnership here. A strategic partnership connecting the real world and and the digital world and bringing that together in physical and digital twins is a very exciting solution to some very significant challenges in the supply chain. By design, everything is always in motion in the supply chain all the time and things are always changing. And today's supply chains are more complex and they're more vulnerable than ever. And to make them future proof, we need to make them very resilient. We need to make them flexible. This means we need to design optionality and agility and being able to operate and optimize that in real time. And the answer is a digital twin. The answer is bringing a physical twin and a digital twin to work together such that you can design the next supply chain node in the digital twin. All the mechatronics, all the software, you can simulate, you can emulate, you can validate the solution before you even build it. Mhm. The digital twin becomes the blueprint to construct the physical twin and then becomes the brain that operates the physical twin thinking faster than real time and then instructing all the actors in the supply chain, people, humans, humanoids, robots, AMRs, automation. What's the next optimal step? That's what physical AI, industrial AI can do for the supply chain. That's what we're doing for the supply chain. We've got and the real time is real impact, right? We've got an autonomous truck running in a full large scale 3PL facility, recognizing what's going on, running logistical missions, operating safely amongst humans and other machines there. And with the work we're doing on the solutioning suite, we'll be able to bring that large scale across the supply chain.
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Moderator9:03
Wow. So, you're thinking of a fleet.
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Rob Smith9:06
I'm talking about the in all the four walls and up and down the four walls, the whole supply chain being optimized all the time with with digital twins.
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Moderator9:16
Wow. Very visionary. And um you definitely sound like you take it serious to be a good companion with the digital twin. That's for sure. Now Peter, all of that sounds promising what we just have heard. So what is still holding industrial AI back from scaling faster?
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Peter Koerte9:34
Yeah. So first off, we love partners that have really big challenges and big dreams and aspirations as Christina and Rob both indicated. So building something in space really revolutionizing the supply chain. What you need for that is intelligence. It's being smarter. It's the data. And this is why the session of this year about how do we build data ecosystems. The big difference to all the discussions we have on Gen AI and about large language models is that while we have uh large language models that are more for consumers, they are based on language as the name would indicate large language models and that language usually you find on the internet and so those language models are being trained on all the available material that is been that has been published on the internet in industry. Can you imagine? OP now going out and saying this is my latest design for my satellite constellation up there and publishes it on the internet with all the 3D designs and all the manufacturing data and all the documentation. Certainly not. Rob wouldn't do that either for his his solutions of course. And so the big difference in industry is the data. The data challenge of how do you now collect data that's coming from production, from engineering, from design and now build the next generation frontier models that we want to apply in the physical world. And the only way to do this is by building open data ecosystems. And that's why it's so great to have also now Rob and Christina sitting here where we have these partnerships now where we clearly said okay let's exchange data where everybody brings their domain expertise and the right set of data together where we as seammens then can help to bring this together in a in a way where we encapsulate that knowledge and that domain now how into models that then can be scaled universally and that's the trick because none of of us can do it alone.
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Moderator11:36
Nobody.
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Peter Koerte11:37
Semens can't. Yes, we do produce. We produce trains, substations and so on, but we don't have enough data. OP doesn't have enough data and also Keon doesn't have enough data. But together, we're getting a step there. And in addition, of course, we can apply all the great AI experts that we have, build a model around it, make sure no IP is being violated. This is the key thing. And then start to scale it. That's the only way how to do it.
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Moderator12:03
Mhm. Seems like you have a clear path in mind how to do it and we're honored that Kon definitely joined this data partnership with us. How come that you decided for joining it so early? I mean this is just a let's I'm not saying a test phase but you're always like in pole position when it comes to new technologies or was it the one because of Seammens as a trusted partner?
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Rob Smith12:31
Thank you. There's a lot of trust involved and there's a common vision. There's a shared vision of connecting the digital world and the physical world and bringing AI into industry using the industrial foundation model. And our view is that accelerates engineering design, the engineering itself, the implementation, the manufacturing. Being able to do that is as Peter rightly said, great industrial companies need a great foundation for doing all that work. That foundation is the data. You need great data, but your company doesn't by itself have all the data. And when you can partner with companies that you trust that see that same vision, it makes a very exciting uh first mover advantage for our company and our industry partnering with great partners on this project.
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Moderator13:28
Mhm. Pole position for Keon here. Definitely. Now uh Christina thinking of OB and thinking of aerospace it's highly highly sensitive data which you definitely don't want to unveil if you don't know to whom what made this data collaboration worth pursuing and why did you choose to go with Semit?
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Christina Vagner13:52
So for sure there is a certain urgency for us currently because as mentioned before like time to orbit It is like the new the new KPI we need to deliver on and um this can of course only be done also with excellent uh technology and and tooling in engineering and production and um for that you mentioned the sensitivity of data. So I believe that space data is one of the most sensitive industrial data because it's mission critical. It's security relevant and most likely it's highly proprietary. So this is a quite a a challenging mix and of course a partnership needs to guarantee from the beginning. So there's a very high bar when it comes to trust protection and also governance and that is be that that is why we choose to join very early because we want to be part of shaping the rules not only follow them. Okay. And um I believe that if if Europe with with a company like like Zman's want to lead in industrial AI, it's also companies like ours who help to to shape those operating rules. For us it was pretty sort of natural to choose Zmens to be honest and and there are certain key drivers I would say. So the first one is um that it is like um by design it's it's a trusted solution and platform because um the the data is sovereign and it is also protected. Then another aspect is that we clearly see Zmens does have the appropriate domain expertise. So Zmensters understand how complex engineering, verification and operation works also for critical systems. Uh we also see this huge potential of this bright ecosystem actually where of course space can also participate from um information across industries sometimes industries which are also innovating faster than us. And um last but not least and maybe this is even the strongest argument is the cultural fit. The cultural fit because of the high expectation on quality and also the heritage of engineering excellence which makes for us the collaboration sort of natural.
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Moderator16:44
That sounds great and definitely Semens knows how to innovate since 176 years. We have a good expertise in that definitely and passionate people working on that. Now Peter, if collaborations like this are so successful, what is the avenue of the future going to look like where we're going to be taken to?
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Peter Koerte17:07
Yeah, there's this great quote that says the future's already there. It's just unevenly distributed, right? And I think uh Christina raw both of them they will bring the future here and that make it uneven. So that indeed they have in their respective industries an unfair advantage because they moved early. Um and what we showing here at Hanofa Messa is uh the first uh that that you can see where this is going to take us. It's the IGEN engineering agent which helps actually industrial automation to scale faster because you have to program them and today you don't find the programmers anymore as much and so we can significantly accelerate that in terms of quality and time and so this is where industrial AI comes already uh into play where we can show it's trustworthy it's secure it's reliable and now we just optimize this one step of programming a machine. But then we said, well, but then it's peace meal. Then you have all these many many many steps if you think about from designing a satellite or designing a forklift or an AMR. But what we want to do is the design, the engineering, the production, the operations, the maintenance thereof, what we call the digital threads, so that you actually can optimize it with one shot and really make that work. This is what Rob was already alluding to is what we call the industrial foundation model. Mhm. So the industrial foundation model thinks about end to end. It thinks about okay if I have to engineer and design a piece I already can do it simultaneously where I think about material properties where I think about the layout and the design of it where I think about how to manufacture it so that I can optimize it in one shot and this is why it's so critical because you need to have all these data from engineering and for manufacturing and for operations and you only can do this in these partnerships and this is why I wholeheartedly believe we In Europe, we do have a big advantage in the world. And that is because of the domain knowledge that we have. And so if you bring the main knowledge together with great partners uh like Keon and OB build the industrial foundation model together on a trustful way, we can scale it much much faster than anybody else.
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Moderator19:34
Great great vision which comes reality. Um, we heard a lot about in the future and the future as a matter of fact in these days is nothing. Usually we say see you next year at Hanover Messi and we'd love to hear about some success facts you might drop here. The future in that case now is three, four, six months the longest probably. What are your expectations in regards of what you have do you want to have achieved by then Rob?
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Rob Smith21:08
You know, it's a little bit like Peter is talking about the future being unevenly distributed. Part of it's absolutely right now and the faster we create together, the faster we realize it. Something that we learned through our partnership with Nvidia that I think uh has been contagious for all the great companies working with Nvidia is getting on a innovation cycle where every two or three months there's a special event. There's a CES in Vegas. There's the Hanover show. There's a GTC in California. There's a show in China. We're always accelerating the innovation in order to be able to multiple times in a year have a very substantial and realized gain in innovation that brings it to a point where it can bring value to our customers. And so it's a very very rapid cycle time. And the future is it's a big treadmill and we're just running all very fast on it together.
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Moderator21:14
Right. Christina, one more thing. You represent the aerospace industry which this year at Hanover Messa is present for the very very first time given those well ecological economical situations. Um have you been around in hall 26? This is where this topic is being presented. Have you kind of envisioned what's happening there and is there some ideas you want to carry home from Hanover?
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Christina Vagner21:15
Oh, definitely. You know, I I think um all of us are sort of having sort of equal challenges. So, um one why also this partnership is so interesting and relevant is that the level of industrialization. So start to produce for I wouldn't say mass okay but for volume for high volume and also having systems actually which during lifetime needs to be innovated because there's so much competition out there and innovation but once you have certain assets flying around in deep space it's not that easy to adapt those and you have also quite some capex out there right so um so it's so fundamental to have those systems designed for flexibility and being software-defined and AI capable. And I I think this is a sort of threat I see for all the space and aerospace companies having this this new let's say innovation leap to master.
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Moderator22:52
All right. Thank you so much. Great insights, great perspectives. And I guess Peter, innovation, that truly is your topic. So, we're going to tick that as well. Thank you so much for sharing your insights, for joining up with Seammens. We're really proud and honored that you teamed up and um looking forward to more joint projects and outcomes. Thank you so much. Big round of applause from the audience. We have two gifts um coming all the way from Brazil. This is where a customer of ours Natura is producing cosmetics with Semens technology sustainable and really wonderfully um arranged. Thank you so much. Enjoy the time here at Hanover Mesa. Keep on exploring and hope to see you soon again and hear more great stories. All the best. Thank you so much.
Thank you.