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Theodore Sarandos
Co-CEO, President & Director, Netflix Inc

'Are We Right Now On Stolen Land?': Ted Cruz Invokes Billie Eilish When Grilling Ted Sarandos

📅 Feb 03, 2026 Forbes Breaking News 8 MIN 28732 VIEWS 54 SEGMENTS · 4 SPEAKERS
At today's Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) questioned Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos. Stay Connected Forbes Breaking News on X: https://x.com/ForbesTVNews Forbes Breaking News on TikTok:   / forbestvnews   More From Forbes: http://forbes.com

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  1. 0:48Sarandos, how many subscribers does Netflix have in the United States?
  2. 1:14So, if the merger went through, how many subscribers would you anticipate having?
  3. 1:37So, if you're at 90 million now with Netflix, by any measure, you'd be north of 100 million depending on the overlap. Is that fair to say?
  4. 1:49Does more market power typically lead to higher prices or lower prices?
  5. 2:10In your view, are monopolies a good thing in America?
  6. 2:23Should the American people be concerned about a monopoly in entertainment and streaming?
  7. 2:40In the streaming market, paid subscription streaming, what percent do you have of the market?
  8. 2:58So you don't want to answer that?
  9. 3:10Would you agree there's a difference between entertainment and propaganda?
  10. 3:31Actually, I want to ask, did either of you all watch the Grammys this week?
  11. 3:53Are we right now on stolen land?
  12. 4:06... at home to, how should they feel even remotely confident that if this merger happens, the combined entity would not simply be a propaganda outlet pushing one particular political view with much greater market power than you have now?
Ted Cruz 0:00 ↗
capitalist society that believes in the marketplace. But I appreciate both of you coming before us. Thank you.
Theodore Sarandos 0:06 ↗
Thank you, Senator. Thanks, Senator Klobuchar. Senator Cruz.
Ted Cruz 0:10 ↗
Thank you. I want to start by having the record reflect that I'm amazed Senator Klobuchar managed to reference the terrific movie Grumpy Old Men.
Theodore Sarandos 0:17 ↗
Well, it sort of is relevant to our workplace.
Ted Cruz 0:20 ↗
And I thought of saying that, but I chose not to. But now I did. You had the hanging punchline, and Amy, I needed you to finish it because it does in fact describe our place of work.
Amy Klobuchar 0:35 ↗
See how stories unite us.
Ted Cruz 0:36 ↗
There we go.
Amy Klobuchar 0:38 ↗
Cruz can use a movie quote from literally anything to match any situation. It's one of his superpowers.
Ted Cruz 0:43 ↗
That's inconceivable.
All right. This is an $83 billion merger. It's a big deal. Entertainment matters, content matters. Mr. Sarandos, how many subscribers does Netflix have in the United States?
Theodore Sarandos 1:03 ↗
Around 86 million, sorry.
Ted Cruz 1:08 ↗
And if the merger goes through...
Theodore Sarandos 1:09 ↗
Senator Cruz, it's North by North America, so it includes Canada.
Ted Cruz 1:14 ↗
So, if the merger went through, how many subscribers would you anticipate having?
Theodore Sarandos 1:18 ↗
What's the growth of HBO Max? What's your last number?
Jason Kilar 1:22 ↗
Yeah. Well, we don't publicly disclose our HBO number, but the HBO subscribers in the US are roughly 50 million. But remember, 80% of those subscribers already subscribe to Netflix. So, there's significant overlap there.
Ted Cruz 1:37 ↗
So, if you're at 90 million now with Netflix, by any measure, you'd be north of 100 million depending on the overlap. Is that fair to say?
Theodore Sarandos 1:45 ↗
Depending on the overlap and the retention. Yes.
Ted Cruz 1:49 ↗
It's a matter of basic economics. Does more market power typically lead to higher prices or lower prices?
Theodore Sarandos 2:00 ↗
And across which industry, sir?
Ted Cruz 2:01 ↗
Across any industry.
Theodore Sarandos 2:03 ↗
I think more market power gives you the ability, but if you're not delivering the value, you can never cash in on it.
Ted Cruz 2:10 ↗
You have a gentleman sitting behind you in the monopoly outfit. In your view, are monopolies a good thing in America?
Theodore Sarandos 2:18 ↗
No, sir, they're not.
Ted Cruz 2:23 ↗
Should the American people be concerned about a monopoly in entertainment and streaming?
Theodore Sarandos 2:28 ↗
Just to be clear, while monopolies are not good, we are nowhere near dominant, let alone a monopoly. We have 9% market share that will grow to 10. If you wanted to contort yourself...
Ted Cruz 2:40 ↗
Well, but that's defining the market the way you want. Obviously an antitrust assessment, the market definition is critical. In the streaming market, paid subscription streaming, what percent do you have of the market?

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Sarandos, T. (2026, February 3). 'Are We Right Now On Stolen Land?': Ted Cruz Invokes Billie Eilish When Grilling Ted Sarandos [Interview transcript]. Forbes Breaking News. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/681524/

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Theodore Sarandos. "'Are We Right Now On Stolen Land?': Ted Cruz Invokes Billie Eilish When Grilling Ted Sarandos." Forbes Breaking News, 3 Feb. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/681524/.

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@misc{sarandos2026_681524,
  author       = {Theodore Sarandos},
  title        = {'Are We Right Now On Stolen Land?': Ted Cruz Invokes Billie Eilish When Grilling Ted Sarandos},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Forbes Breaking News. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {feb},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/681524/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}