We've seen reporting, I think in the New York Times, that you accompanied Mr. Epstein to visit the White House in 1993, a few months after President Clinton took office. Do you have any recollection of that?
Absolutely. Didn't happen. Didn't happen. Well, I'd been at the White House, but the only time I was at the White House when Clinton was president, he invited a group of like 20 CEOs from around the country to get feedback on the economy. And that was said, and I was there like the president of one of the lumber companies, the chairman of JP Morgan, Sears, companies like that. I was kind of the smallest fish in that bowl, but it was that purpose.
And Mr. Epstein was not present.
So, as far as you know, you did not visit the White House under any administration with Mr. Epstein.
I never visited the White House under any administration under any circumstance with Mr. Epstein. Okay. That I'm positive of.
The New York Times has also reported that at your 59th birthday party, Mr. Epstein acted as sort of a master of ceremonies. He would give toasts and introduce guests and arranged for some people such as Alan Dershowitz and Shimon Peres to attend. Do you recall the party that I'm describing?
Well, Shimon was at a couple of birthday parties. I don't remember Jeffrey being there. If the party was in Columbus, I probably could remember four or five of the people that were there that it was a surprise to.
Do you recall, I suppose, at any birthday party, but that one in particular, Mr. Epstein playing that sort of a role as a master of ceremonies of sorts?
No, I'm thinking even at the party I was thinking about the Shimon Peres. I don't, if you ask me who was there, he wouldn't have been on the list. It's not who I remember. It was a different kind of group of friends that Abigail picked to come to the party.
But to the original question, do you recall Mr. Epstein ever acting as a master of ceremonies at a birthday party for you?
No, absolutely not. Never.
I'm going to keep quoting the New York Times.
It's a good thing I don't read newspapers very often. That's crazy.
I'd like to introduce as minority exhibit H. I'll give you a moment to look this over. It's just one page. Three copies.
So, this is a file that was part of the recent DOJ release and it's some kind of draft or fully composed email from Mr. Epstein. It appears to be intended for you. We do not have knowledge of whether you ever received it. Did you ever receive this email?
Sorry, just for the record. Did you ever receive this email? I never received this email letter or whatever it was.
Understanding that you have not received it and therefore have not previously seen it. Is that correct? Other than anything the counsel may have shown him.
I would like to touch on a few discreet parts of it. Mr. Epstein at one point early in the email says that quote, 'I owe a great debt to you as frankly you owe to me.' Would you have any sense of why he might feel that way in general or did he ever express that type of a sentiment to you?
No. When I saw this, I know what you do or people do. They write letters to the file. I've never written one like a memo to myself. And so I read this and I thought this is like cover your ass kind of thing and it just doesn't even sound the way he speaks and just nonsense in it.
He also said, quote, 'As I'm sure you recall, you didn't sit with your mother or sister or Sharon when the conflict arose, as I did it for you. You didn't sit with Jack Kessler, Stanley, or Stanley's son. I did it for you.' Do you have any sense of what Mr. Epstein might be referring to there?
