I want to circle back again to some testimony you provided earlier. You testified that Mr. Epstein stole large amounts of money from you. Is that correct?
Yes, I did. That's a statement.
And I can't recall. Did you know some partial amount of how much he stole?
Well, I didn't know he was stealing till after we discovered that he was a crook and my wife's attorneys told me about it.
Not that they told you, what you understood.
What I understood, I only understood what they told me. So I didn't discover it or count it or whatever one would do. That's the essence of your question.
Does $46 million sound like an approximation of the amount that you were alerted to after the fact?
I don't remember specifically initially. Abigail just told me this is really...
No, not what Abigail told you. What you understand?
What I understood that it was a large amount of money and I didn't know the specific amount when it was first raised. Subsequently, I found out that it was at least $100 million.
Does that represent the grand total of the amount that Mr. Epstein stole from you?
I don't know. I don't think I'll ever know.
Do you, understanding that you found out he stole largely after the fact, were you able to piece together how he was able to accomplish this theft of you?
You never figured out if he was, say, embezzling funds of some sort or how he would be allegedly embezzling funds of some sort.
And you testified earlier that you did not end up pressing any charges against Mr. Epstein for the theft of your funds. Could you briefly explain to me why again you decided not to?
And to be clear, you never suspected any wrongdoing until you ultimately knew. Is that correct?
Are you aware of any advisers fearing any type of retribution from Mr. Epstein if you pursued litigation over the theft of your funds?
Did your advisers come to you with any fear of retribution from Mr. Epstein if you threatened litigation over the theft of your funds?
No. No. I don't remember that at all.
Are you aware of Ghislaine Maxwell having any role in the theft of your funds?
I want to move now to the New York City townhome, 9 East 71st Street. I believe you first purchased that home before Mr. Epstein lived in it. Is that correct?
Do you remember the time period in which you would have bought it? Best guess.
I don't know, five or 10 years before. It was a school and then the remodeling took three years and so I don't remember when it was, but I'm guessing it was in the 80s sometime.
Excuse me, and you said 5 to 10 years before. 5, 10 years before what exactly?
Okay. Did you ever live in this house yourself?
I described I visited it, but I never lived in New York. Really? I hate New York.
When are you first aware of Mr. Epstein moving into that mansion?
He moved in sometime after I sold it to him, but I don't know when that was.
