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Founder & Group Chairman, MakeMyTrip Limited

IEC 2024: MakeMyTrip Founder & Chairman Deep Kalra Discusses 'How To Kick-Start Startup Innovation'

📅 Dec 12, 2024 Times Now 21 MIN 14 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
Deep Kalra, Founder And Chairman, MakeMyTrip, joined Mihir Bhatt for an exclusive conversation on 'How To Kick-Start Startup ...

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  1. 5:27What is going to be that next wave of innovation that can actually create many more startups and many more jobs, because ultimately that's what we need to sustain the growth and actually fast track to top three?
  2. 9:00Probably we need to aim for double-digit, settle between 9 and 10% GDP. How do we do that?
  3. 12:44Let's assume you are 24 years old and thinking of doing a startup. What would be your advice?
  4. 14:24The bigger question is: if AI is going to play such a big role, what happens to the job market?
  5. 17:49What would be your advice to today's youth who are trying to launch a startup or try something on their own?
  6. 19:48What will it take for India to become the largest startup ecosystem in the world?
Mahir 0:01 ↗
And like we were discussing, you like surprises, so first of all let me surprise you: the number that Hina just gave, India has more than 1.4 lakh startups right now, and obviously we are very proud of it because we are the third largest startup ecosystem in the world. We also have 1.4 billion people, so when you compare 1.4 lakh startups to 1.4 billion people, how do you... I also got a nice pleasant surprise in the speaker lounge, I met one of my childhood favorites, I am a fanboy, John Rhodes, and he is going to be here soon. Yeah, thank you for that.
Deep Kalra 0:42 ↗
That's a very compelling number. But the reality is that the success rate of startups is low. In itself, 1.4 lakh startups is tremendous, and I don't think India would have got to this number without the last decade's efforts. The platform provided for startups has been commendable. I was involved with the first Startup India event as moderator. The government recognized startups as important. Then came regulatory breaks, tax benefits, fund of funds. But the single biggest turning point for startups in India has been UPI. UPI is the backbone of our entire industry. It democratized e-commerce and fintech, especially during COVID. India has the building blocks in place. The new breed of entrepreneurs are wiser and more ambitious than my time 20 years ago. I think it's okay to fail. The learning from failures is key. The best companies learn from failures and pivot.
Mahir 5:27 ↗
Right, in fact you almost cue me for my next question. When you started MakeMyTrip, it was a completely out-of-box idea for a country like India which was still 20 years ago not so well connected. I think you triggered the first wave of innovation as far as online businesses are concerned. Now we are in a situation where we constantly hear about the great benefit of platforms like BHIM and UPI and so many startups coming up every day, most of them failing, some doing really well. The real issue is: are we innovative enough in the startup space? What is going to be that next wave of innovation that can actually create many more startups and many more jobs, because ultimately that's what we need to sustain the growth and actually fast track to top three?
Deep Kalra 5:30 ↗
Yes, we are today a 24-year-old company, but I love to tell people in the company, all new joiners have to think like a 24-year-old startup. The day we stop thinking like a startup might become the beginning of the end. The other very interesting word you used was 'many will fail'. I think it's okay to fail. The learning from failures is key. The best companies learn from failures and pivot. Coming to your most important question: are we innovative? I think we could do much better. Firstly, Indians and Indian businesses don't take a very long-term approach to innovation, which is R&D. We have looked westwards towards the US, which invests a lot in R&D. That needs to change. We have a great opportunity with AI today. The impact of AI is going to be no less than the internet. This is a great time to invest in R&D for AI, blockchain, to train our people. I was delighted to hear that Bennett Coleman Institute has an AI school. For companies, we have to give long-term incentives for research. If we don't, we will always be copying more than having core IP. To move, we need to innovate much more, invest in R&D, and from policy point of view, give more incentives.
Mahir 9:00 ↗
Right, Deep, I have a question. If we look at the existing Indian MNCs, there are many business conglomerations, but at least brick and mortar businesses, we are still not producing something on the lines of Google, Meta, or Tesla. At some point we will have to start doing that if we want to sustain growth and create enough jobs. We are still a young nation, and 7% GDP growth may not be enough. Probably we need to aim for double-digit, settle between 9 and 10% GDP. How do we do that?
Deep Kalra 10:00 ↗
I wish I had all the answers, but I am totally in your camp. What makes it even more ironic, Mahir, is that Indians who studied in India are at the helm of many path-breaking companies like Microsoft and Google, and at least 20 other companies. We have the talent pool. We have 1.4 billion people, a massive market, and a growing middle class. Everyone wants to come here. We need to do the reverse: first do well for our own market, then take Indian solutions to the developing world. For example, we made our first serious foray in the GCC with an Arabic platform. On the other hand, we have companies like Indigo and Haldiram's that provide world-class service. B2B we have done very well with TCS, Infosys, Zoho. B2C requires a different mindset, understanding local markets. We should pick certain markets where we have a right to succeed and go there first.
Mahir 12:44 ↗
Right, Deep, if you were to launch a startup today, what kind of shape, size, and sector would it be in? Let's assume you are 24 years old and thinking of doing a startup. What would be your advice?

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Kalra, D. (2024, December 12). IEC 2024: MakeMyTrip Founder & Chairman Deep Kalra Discusses 'How To Kick-Start Startup Innovation' [Interview transcript]. Times Now. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1018455/

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Deep Kalra. "IEC 2024: MakeMyTrip Founder & Chairman Deep Kalra Discusses 'How To Kick-Start Startup Innovation'." Times Now, 12 Dec. 2024. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1018455/.

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  year         = {2024},
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