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🚨Trump and Elon PANIC Over Fear of PRISON, They are Getting DESPERATE

📅 Oct 24, 2026 Aaron Parnas 8 MIN 93437 VIEWS 20 SEGMENTS · 4 SPEAKERS
Aaron Parnas reports on breaking news of Trump and Elon panicking over fear of prison, including a look at what Trump may be planning to do, how this plan could backfire, and much more! ------------------------------------ Substack: https://aaronparnas.substack.com/ X:   / aaronparnas   Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aaronparnas6?... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aaronparnas... Facebook:   / aaron.parnas   Threads: https://www.threads.net/@aaronparnas?...

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Aaron Parnas reported that Donald Trump and Elon Musk fear potential criminal prosecution, prompting discussions of mass pardons and heavy election spending. Parnas detailed that the White House considers preemptive pardons for junior staffers across policy areas like deportations, war, and trade, citing the Washington Sun. He argued that accepting pardons would waive Fifth Amendment protections, exposing staff to grand jury testimony and perjury risks. Parnas claimed this fear stems from expected investigations and a Democratic sweep. He noted Trump's remarks on self-pardons, referencing Biden's precedent, and Trump's reluctance to see his people face legal battles. Parnas highlighted Musk's $442 million midterm spending, with $76 million in the past month, driven by fears of congressional testimony on USAID, Starlink, and SpaceX, echoing Lawrence O'Donnell's allegations about USAID's impact.

Key takeaways

  1. Trump privately weighs mass pardons for junior White House staffers in policy areas like deportations, war, and trade.
  2. Accepting a pardon waives Fifth Amendment protections, making staff vulnerable to grand jury testimony and perjury charges.
  3. Elon Musk spent over $442 million on midterm elections, including $76 million in the past month, to avoid congressional investigations.
  4. Trump expressed openness to self-pardons, citing Biden's precedent, but said he did nothing wrong.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
$442 million Elon Musk's total midterm election spending metric 4:54
$76 million Elon Musk's additional spending in the past month metric 4:54

Chapters

  1. 0:00Fear of prosecution in administration
  2. 0:59White House mass pardon discussions
  3. 1:44Legal consequences of accepting pardons
  4. 3:40Trump's remarks on self-pardons
  5. 4:54Musk's election spending and fears
  6. 5:31O'Donnell's allegations about Musk and USAID
  7. 7:31Turnout surge and future outlook

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 5:31... hundreds of millions of dollars he has poured into Republican campaigns do not keep control of the House and the Senate in Republican hands, then he will have to finally testify under oath about what he's been up to inside the government?
Aaron Parnas 0:00 ↗
Donald Trump and Elon Musk are terrified about the possibility of jail time, not just for themselves, but also for those around them. Elon Musk is dumping millions and millions of dollars into elections with the goal of avoiding congressional investigations, a goal of avoiding DOJ prosecution.
Donald Trump, meanwhile, is privately weighing mass pardons inside the White House of junior staffers who helped aid and abet much of the actions of this administration. There is growing fear right now, this afternoon, this weekend, this Saturday afternoon, that those in and around the White House may be subject to major congressional investigations that would ultimately lead to criminal prosecution in a new Department of Justice. And we want to talk about that right now. I'm going to put on my legal hat for a second as well here and talk to you why I think this will actually backfire. If you can make sure to subscribe, support our work, like, comment, share. We are building something big and we're doing it together.
So, let me set the stage here for you today. The Washington Sun has now confirmed that the White House is considering whether to issue mass pardons for junior staffers, in a signal that the political pardon palooza of recent years has yet to run its course. The Washington Sun reported that the White House is now evaluating the move. A pardon for all junior administration personnel is viewed as unlikely, one source said. But the president could issue blanket pardons for all employees involved in particular policy areas such as deportations, war, or trade. Trump has previously said he would be interested in pardoning some administration officials, but the discussions happening now would apply to a far greater number of White House staff than has been previously reported.
Let's talk about this from a legal lens. A pardon grants you complete immunity essentially from a crime that you may have committed or that you've already been adjudicated guilty of. There is this idea of a preemptive pardon, and we hadn't seen it really much in the past. It's been kind of sprinkled in throughout history. Nixon was preemptively pardoned, if you remember. Biden preemptively pardoned some January 6 staff members and committee members. Donald Trump could theoretically issue these preemptive pardons.
Now, here's why this is an issue for the president and why I think this would actually backfire. When you accept a pardon, you lose Fifth Amendment protections — Fifth Amendment protections to talk about the crimes that you are pardoned for. And it's interesting that they're looking at pardoning for deportations, meaning ICE, and who like Stephen Miller, for example, ordering these ICE raids that eventually led to the deaths of American citizens on American soil — Alex Prey, Renee Good. War, which is interesting: the bombing of an all-girls school in southern Iran that killed over a hundred children. Trade to me seems like insider trading about tariffs, about the money coming in and out of the administration.
None of this — a pardon will shield them from criminal prosecution, but will not shield them from investigations, and in fact will open them up even more. And so if he gives out these pardons to junior staffers, if I'm a prosecutor, I'm hauling them into the grand jury room. They no longer have the Fifth Amendment protections. You're going to have to spill the beans. And if they lie, that pardon doesn't cover lying. They can be charged with perjury. And if you want to know why there's this fear, it's because they expect a sweep in just a matter of weeks. Now, here's the president saying that he may pardon even himself. Take a listen.
Donald Trump 3:40 ↗
Joe Biden pardoned his brother. He pardoned his sister. He pardoned his son. He pardoned half of almost everybody.
Reporter 3:47 ↗
He invented the preemptive pardon. So I just have to ask you, are you seriously considering a self-pardon before you leave office?
Donald Trump 3:53 ↗
Well, I don't think about it because I did nothing wrong. I could have given myself a pardon the last time I left office. I never thought that they'd bring me through the mud.
Reporter 4:05 ↗
Do you regret that?
Donald Trump 4:08 ↗
Well, I won, but I won the hard way.

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Parnas, A. (2026, October 24). 🚨Trump and Elon PANIC Over Fear of PRISON, They are Getting DESPERATE [Interview transcript]. Aaron Parnas. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3129193/

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Aaron Parnas. "🚨Trump and Elon PANIC Over Fear of PRISON, They are Getting DESPERATE." Aaron Parnas, 24 Oct. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3129193/.

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  title        = {🚨Trump and Elon PANIC Over Fear of PRISON, They are Getting DESPERATE},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Aaron Parnas. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {oct},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3129193/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
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