Em entrevista à TMC, a empresária Luiza Trajano destacou o protagonismo feminino na economia e defende maior presença de mulheres em cargos de liderança no Brasil. A presidente do conselho do Magazine Luiza falou sobre os avanços das mulheres no mercado de trabalho, os desafios ainda existentes e a meta de alcançar maior igualdade até 2030, além de comentar o papel feminino nas decisões de consumo e na gestão das famílias.
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What Luiza Trajano said
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Luiza Trajano advised small business owners to prioritize sales and cash flow, warning that not all revenue is profit and emphasizing careful spending and debt collection. She recalled surviving past crises, including Collor's asset freeze, and argued Brazil's consumption needs, like building 10 million homes in 10 years, offer long-term opportunities. She noted that capital was scarcer in the past, while today international competition and technological change, especially AI, are major challenges, urging small businesses to adopt AI. On women, she acknowledged progress but stressed the need for more, aiming for 50% women in top positions by 2030. She promoted the Women in Professions Summit, scheduled for August 4-5 in São Paulo, expecting 10,000 attendees and multiple stages, and invited men to participate as allies.
Key takeaways
Brazil needs to build 10 million homes in 10 years to reach developed countries' social equality level.
AI is a 'tsunami' that small businesses must adopt to cut costs, comparing it to using WhatsApp.
The goal is 50% women in top positions by 2030, achieved through the Women in Professions Summit.
The Women in Professions Summit will be held August 4-5 in São Paulo, with 10,000 attendees and 8-10 stages.
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0:01What is the golden advice for someone starting a small business who needs to leverage their own fortune in this high-interest scenario, with debt suggesting caution when selling on credit?
4:09When you started back then, what were the main differences thinking back then versus today, economically speaking, for an entrepreneur?
Let's continue talking a bit about the issue of predictability, which I think is a word we can use to summarize this perception you're bringing us, given what we're seeing in terms of signals. Despite the preaching and even from President Lula, I think there's no one, except perhaps poor Gabriel Galipolo, defending the current interest rate level in Brazil. There's been no signal, and the Central Bank has made it quite clear in its communications that things will change or there won't be a major turnaround in the short term. In this scenario, Luiza, talking to our listeners, especially micro and small entrepreneurs, who we know are starting businesses in Brazil, many betting on their own companies and looking at your trajectory as a model. What is the golden advice for someone starting a small business who needs to leverage their own fortune in this high-interest scenario, with debt suggesting caution when selling on credit?
Well, first, there's no golden advice, right? If Luiza Trajano doesn't have it, what do the rest of us do? No, but what I can say is, first, focus on the sale. The sale has to be made, perhaps with a smaller profit margin to sell cheaper in a short period and for cash. But the most important thing right now is cash flow. I tell small business owners this a lot: they have to be very careful with what goes out, because not everything that comes in is profit, and not everything that comes in can be spent. It's like having two rackets in your hand. One you have to sell to survive, and the other you have to sell consciously and also fight to collect payment. I've lived through many such moments. I think I'm the person who has lived through the most crises in this country. You saw a time when Collor took all the money out of the economy, leaving only 50 cruzeiros. Imagine taking all the money out of the economy, from small and large businesses, from individuals and corporations. But you can survive in a country that still has so much consumption to be done. We need to build 10 million homes in 10 years to reach the social equality level of developed countries. Most people don't have air conditioning, don't have a fully automatic washing machine, and don't have what they'd like. So it's not even consumerism; it's about giving others the opportunity to have what some already have. In a country where we have no real crisis—you see how Brazilians united after the natural disaster in the South. Japan has to have huge stores just to prepare for earthquakes. So, in a country with great economic diversity and necessary consumption for the next 15 to 20 years, you can't get discouraged. You have to keep going if your business is doing well, and if not, well... and look for cheaper credit where it's offered. Another thing I tell the financial sector is about Credit Score. It needs to be more available for small and medium-sized companies. Creditors need to adapt more. There's a lot of money stuck in some banks that can't be released because the credit score, the data that releases the credit, is from 10 or 15 years ago, and we're in a different reality now. I think all of this needs to be connected.
Luiza, Dani called you a model, and we can't question that statement. But you make many references to the past, to the crises you and Brazil have been through. I'd like you to make a comparison in two parts. When you started back then, what were the main differences thinking back then versus today, economically speaking, for an entrepreneur? And then the second part of my question is for women specifically, and I'm not even talking about the businesswoman, which is a very important part of our economy, but about women as protagonists of their own lives.
Well, let's talk economically. You had different difficulties. Capital was much harder to get; it was much less available in the market for companies, especially retail companies. You had much more national competition than international competition, which is healthy but involves much more difference in positioning. Today, you have much more international competition, which has a side where you can form alliances and even gain some advantages, but it's much harder for the small garment maker, for the small factory owner, and for the large ones too. And there's a huge technological change. Whoever doesn't align with digital won't survive. At the same time, physical stores have never been as strong as they are now, but they also have to be digital, they have to be omnichannel. So there are very interesting differences, but always for that moment. The lack of capital, the unavailability of capital, was a very big problem for me, but I didn't have such intense competition. I had local competition that fought with the same criteria. On the other hand, when digital arrived, Magalu was one that sought to enter digital, despite having been physical for almost 40 years. Suddenly we have digital, then artificial intelligence that will revolutionize. We've had three big changes: the internet, then mobile, and now it will be a tsunami. AI is very serious. What I've been telling small businesses is to ally with it, to show it, because it will help you cut costs and many other things. Don't try to stay without it, and it's very easy to get into. I've helped many small businesses by saying it's like entering WhatsApp: you download an AI and get in. So today there are other problems. But what I want to make very clear—and I'll talk about women in a moment—is that in every moment you're living, you have a problem that at that time also seemed big. Looking back today, you say, 'Wow, that one was small compared to what I'm living now.' But we learn to live with problems more calmly. Trajano.
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Trajano, L. (2026, May 20). Luiza Trajano defende o protagonismo feminino e a igualdade no mercado de trabalho [Interview transcript]. TMC News Br. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/919852/
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Luiza Trajano. "Luiza Trajano defende o protagonismo feminino e a igualdade no mercado de trabalho." TMC News Br, 20 May. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/919852/.
BibTeX
@misc{trajano2026_919852,
author = {Luiza Trajano},
title = {Luiza Trajano defende o protagonismo feminino e a igualdade no mercado de trabalho},
howpublished = {Interview transcript, TMC News Br. CEOInterviews.AI},
year = {2026},
month = {may},
url = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/919852/},
note = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}