A dialogue with the Chair of the Board, Naguib Sawiris, about the global campaign to enact an ‘International Treaty to Ban the Political Abuse of Religion’ led by BPUR International.
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0:23So what drew you to this cause and why did you feel it was worthy of your time?
3:51... so long, how do you feel about BPure's specific approach to this issue in tackling the abuses of religion in politics and how do you think that it could succeed in navigating this issue where prior attempts to address it might have failed?
Hello everyone. I'm Sai and welcome to this dialogue with the leading supporters of BPure International to promote our global campaign to enact an international treaty to ban the political use of religion. Today I'll be speaking with Mr. Naguib Sawiris. Thank you so much for joining me today.
I'm not sure you need any introduction, but any online search and you need a lifetime to cover all the results. But for anyone who's not in the know, Mr. Sawiris is a renowned global investor and business leader with several conglomerates working in all major sectors from telecommunication, mining, tourism, financial services, real estate, including developing major resorts and cities. He's a patron of many cultural initiatives, festivals, events, and he is a global philanthropist supporting hundreds of humanitarian initiatives. And last but not least, he's the first patron and first chair of the board for BPure International. And in fact, you've been supporting BPure for more than a year before its official launch. And what I've heard from BPure's founder Salam Sahan, he made the decision to launch BPure after meeting you in London. So really, you were the keys to the ignition of this whole mission. And I'd be interested to know, Mr. Sawiris, you've been involved with so many humanitarian causes and so many huge scale projects. So what drew you to this cause and why did you feel it was worthy of your time?
First of all, you know, I live in Egypt. I'm a Christian Copt and Egypt is a majority Muslim country. So we had our own frictions here. Always people are fanatic or use their religion and forget about the basics of all religions, which is to be kind, to love each other, to accept each other even if you're different, and that God teaches us to love and not to kill or destroy. Then you go in the outer circle of my circle, you go to Palestine and Israel and it's again, it's Israelis wanting a Jewish state and the Muslim and Christians, Palestinian Muslims, Christians, they don't have a place to go. So again, religion is being thrown into that. Then you go to Yugoslavia and see what happened there. Then you find the wars in our regions between Iran and the tensions between the Sunnis and the Shia. So even if you read history and you go to the crusades, unfortunately religion has been always used as an excuse to launch wars and kill and destroy. And I'm sure God is innocent from all that. So I feel that the misuse of religion as a tool in order to initiate wars is the last thing we need. We have to accept each other. I know that my opinion will not be liked by ultra-religious fanatic people in any religion, but I am always doubtful that anyone chose his own religion. You grow up into a religion that is given to you by your parents, by the time you grow up and so on, it's too much embedded in you that someone comes and wants to talk to you about another religion. I know some people venture into that, but I think as long as I believe in God, in the end it's one God and that's the most important thing. So this was my finding, especially when you see also what happened in Syria and what happens everywhere, always this Sunnis and there's always something to do with religion, which I'm sure God is not happy with.
So being involved in this mission for so long, how do you feel about BPure's specific approach to this issue in tackling the abuses of religion in politics and how do you think that it could succeed in navigating this issue where prior attempts to address it might have failed?
Well, what differentiates this is that Salam has given his life for that cause. He's stopped all his activities in life and put all his time and effort to make it happen. Second, he's done a good job in selecting the board and trustees, people who are also big believers in the cause. He's gone the right way. He started by contacting all the relevant political forums in the world, the European Union, all entities who are recognized as reputable and as serious to invite them to adopt our resolution. And he's done a magnificent work lately with the European Union, which is really outstanding, and the results he's achieved are very impressive in comparison to the limited budget he has to continue his trip. So I also believe the fact that we have connected to other organizations who have similar causes like the Bahrain King forum that has the same feelings and ideas. Some people in the Emirates also, they have organizations which are more into faith dialogue, which is also complimentary to our mission, which is good because it reduces the frictions between the relations. So he's done a good job in trying to combine all that. And of course, he has a supporter like me, so I can help with the financing, but I wanted him to expand on that so it doesn't seem like just a one-person initiative.
So this is a really long-term project and it is incredible all the progress that BPure has made on the world stage despite such humble beginnings and over a relatively short period of time for a mission of this scale. And now we're seeing that BPure is on the international agenda with imminent state adoption and a supporting resolution at the Council of Europe. How do you see the next steps forward?
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